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| garry |
Jimmy Carr jokeThis is the joke Jimmy Carr told an audience of 2,500 at the Manchester Apollo:“Say what you like about servicemen amputees from Iraq and Afghanistan, but we’re going to have a f*****g good paralympic team in 2012.” Daily mail readers are offended and Patrick Mercer, Conservative MP said: ‘This was a remarkably dim and foolish thing to joke about. It’s not funny and this man’s career should end right now.’ The only thing that shocked me about it was Jimmy Carr actually being funny. Thoughts? |
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| SpecB |
It was probably not the best of taste jokes to tell but I have to admit I did giggle a bit when I read about it.
However, I feel that if I had lost any of my limbs in a war then I may not see it the same way and be rightfully angry about it. |
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| Stuntman |
Jimmy Carr is a comedian and he told a joke. If people are offended by that, then they need to have a word with themselves.
He's quite right in his statement to say words to the effect of "that's what I do". I agree that the joke's funny, it made me laugh when I heard it on the news yesterday. Frankie Boyle must definitely be in trouble if people think Jimmy Carr is offensive! |
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| woof woof |
Complaining about this joke has greatly increased the number of people who've heard it. The best thing to do would've been to have kept quiet.
On radio 5 this morning they compared it to a reportedly true story from the Falklands... A solder got his leg blown off and screamed "I've lost my leg!" and was answered..."No you haven't, it's over there." They said that the latter joke was ok as it was told be soldiers, the former wasn't ok as it wasn't told by a soldier. I didn't realise there were such strict rules. |
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| GonnaBreakABuggy |
Load 'o' bollocks, comedy has always been about pushing the boundaries, and he's done that and got attention to the problem... | ||||||
| PG |
Re: Jimmy Carr joke
+1. Normally I can't stand Jimmy Carr. He seems to be a insufferably smug and unfunny person, who finds himself hilarious. |
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| Boxer6 |
FFS, people really should get over themselves.
Look at it another way, if you like - it's actually a comment on the fact that our servicemen are so well trained and fit, losing a limb wouldn't detrract them from competing in one of the worlds premier sporting events. Ner ner ne ner nerr!! 
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| DarthBalls |
Frankie Boyle writes some of Carr's material. Jerry Sadowitz makes FB seem like Victoria Wood (I'm a big fan of Frnakie Boyle though). I've still to check out Brendan Burns but I've heard he's pretty near the knuckle too. |
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| Gooner |
Jimmy's come out with worse things than this in the past. At least he's had the balls to stand up and apologise for any offence but stick up for his profession by explaining that it was merely a joke aimed at making people laugh. I think the fuss really comes about because he is a patron of the servicemans rehabilitation unit and so has seen the effects on the lives of soldiers injured in service. | ||||||
| DaveGibson |
There was an interview about this with an ex-serviceman on the news a day or two ago. He thought it was funny. I expect the complaints have come from people with no experience of the services (but having read nothing about it, I may be wrong on that). | ||||||
| Giant |
I have a mate who is an ex squaddie and now works in close protection in iraq. One of his mates lost an ear after running over a mine. They all now call him Vincent. That kind of humour is part of the bond of the armed services. I imagine the people making complaints are the same people who complained about the Brand/Ross podcast and Clarkson calling Brown names. I wouldn't even know how to complain, or who to, if I was that upset about any comment/joke in the media. I suspect those who do have their pen poised and the number on speed dial just waiting for the next 'scandal' they read in the Daily Mail. | ||||||
| Dr. Hfuhruhurr |
And Giant has pointed out, the humour of the guys out in Afghanistan is a lot sicker and twisted than this. |
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| Pkh72 |
It's just given the 'i must be offended by anybody to fit it' crowd another back to climb on.
These people should just knob off. It must be a sad existance to get offended by anything and everything. |
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| Mike Amos |
Just as sad as to make sweeping generalisations, as you have just done. Some humour, even the blackest, is bloody funny but just because someone complains about one item does not mean they complained about jc's minor spat over brown etc. Everyone has something that they think too near the knuckle or just plain offensive. Fact of life is people who state that others should get over themselves should take their own advice. None of us are perfect.
PS. Have a great day this is just an opinion. |
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| Pkh72 |
Uum Ok, sweeping generalisation or not, i stand by my opinion of these people.
It's okay for people to not be happy with a 'joke', but to feel the need to go and formally complain, dragging out their hurt or displeasure is something i don't get. 
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| Big TC |
There's always humour to be found in any situation, which is why t'internet is flooded with such gags as soon as a 'celebrity' like Michael Jackson or Stephen Gately pass away.
The Jimmy Carr joke is ok as far as I'm concerned, and I would reckon that amputees from Afhganistan would find it funny too. Who knows, it might give them the psychological push to start aiming for the British paralympic team! I feel sorry for the sort of people who get upset by these jokes, really, and do wonder if they should get out a bit more and grab onto a passing life... My mother has absolutely no sense of humour, and may well be one of the offended....Mind you, she reads the Daily Express, not the Mail. |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr |
I think that's a fair point, and imagine the public support if someone wounded in Iraq or Afghanistan DID compete in the Olympics! |
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| Mike Amos |
I really hope they do. WOuld make a brilliant recovery tool/opportunity. Perhaps someone in the MOD should think about supporting these folk to do just that. | ||||||
| Big Blue |
Anyone that thinks this is "wrong", "insensitive" or "an affront" really has no idea about the depths squaddies will sink to when ripping themselves, the Ruperts and the other side.
Many probably thought that this was a factual statement. Read Frankie Boyle's comments regarding the steralisation of comedy on TV to understand why we will soon become a load of dour, miserable, lentil eating Guardian readers or mad-eyed, suspicious, ranting Daily Mail readers. |
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| scamper |
That joke is typical squaddie humour, and i'd even suggest he had it told to him by a squaddie while on one of his visits to Headly Court. However, I would caution a squaddie has earnt the right to tell that joke, not Carr. I suspect most military personnel (and most others) are not offended, but some and their relatives certainly would be.
Its worth pointing out for every death in Afgan we hear on the ten o'clock news, we don't always hear about the x others in the same engagement who were seriously injured many if not most with missing limbs - the scenes at selly oak hospital are humbling and traumatic at the same time. |
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| the other ct |
The reaction is such bollocks. There was a report about the 2012 Paralympics on the BBC News at Six and someone associated with the Paralympics was encouraging injured soldiers to think about joining the team or training. I swear this was less than 4 weeks ago!
I remember it because I laughed at the slightly patronising nature of the report which seemed to be ‘come on it isn’t all bad... have you ever dreamed about winning a gold medal?’ I think they featured this guy and someone who wants to enter one of the swimming events. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/7860977.stm It wouldn’t surprise me if the joke made by Jimmy stemmed from that report. |
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| Apex clipper |
Or a squaddie mate of mine that through a childhood accident only had half a left ear. 18months was his nickname. Soldiers would/could tell the likes of Mr Carr...a raft of sick jokes. |
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| DradusContact |
The fact is this thread has made me laugh more than jimmy car ever has.
Im not offeneded, i havent lost a limb so there is no way it can apply to me. |
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| 'G' |
After an accident with a Brutus Jean zip in Newquay Cornwall, I required a circumcision to remove the painful imbedded oversized zip that bit into my foreskin.
It was painful experience that many never stopped making a joke about for years. Particularly Chalky who shouted, "Quick there's someone coming, Steve!" As I was having a slash up a back alley, when we were thrown out of The Sailors Arms for singing. (again.) |
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| Racing |
Quite. I'm not remotely PC but I do think it was a rather near the bone thing to make gags about. Not particularly funny either. |
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| Scouse |
Like others have pointed out, the squaddie humour is much, much worse, but by the same token I suppose they do have the right to do so.
Whereas Carr does come across as an un-sufferably smug twat. |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr |
In such close proximity to your sig, I couldn't help reading that as "snug". |
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| DradusContact |
Another epic sig. I approve. | ||||||
| maz |
"rather near the bone" are you taking the piss? 
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| BeN |
+1 
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr |
Could be a bit of a saw point. Perhaps we should cut short this discussion. |
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| Big TC |
Yeah - hop along to the next thread | ||||||
| Dr. Hfuhruhurr |
Agreed - there's no knee-d to carry on | ||||||
| TimR |
Surely the only opinion that should be listened to is current/ex-squaddies.
If the Daily Mail readership don't like it have they got any right to protest? It's just like the old days of letters to Points of View when people would write in to complain about the language on the latest Billy Connolly programme they'd watched, knowing full well they'd have plenty of ammunition. Aye, just fuck off to a different channel you twats. That's what the remote is there for 
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| maz |
I was just going out on a limb | ||||||
| Dr. Hfuhruhurr |
I was very heartened that when Michael Jackson died, we all went straight for the sick jokes, instead of the mawkish sentimentality expressed elsewhere:
"RIP Michael, we'll always remember you" (like he'd be reading the forum, even if he wasn't dead) |
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| DradusContact |
Its weird that he's dead even now. | ||||||
| TimR |
Sorry, I must've missed that. When did it happen? |
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| Big TC |
Did you expect him to be resurected, then? Even that would be beyond MJ, I feel. |
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| Racing |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr |
Wouldn't put it past his more demented fans to do an "El Cid" on him. |
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| Big TC |
Its probably in the planning stage as we speak, or rather type.
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| Blarno |
For something to be funny, it has to be offensive to someone or something. Someone or something has to be the butt of the jokes.
I have a very dark, twisted sense of humour, there's little I won't laugh at. The bassist in my last band was a ex-squaddie who'd served in the Gulf and some of the shit he came out with was outrageous. Funny, but very outrageous. Life is too short to be offended. I, too, am surprised at Jimmy Carr cracking a funny joke. |