DradusContact
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Itchy V5Been thinking about getting shut of mine. Can't really think of a particular reason, still runs well enough, just getting bored, fancy a change etc.
Been thinking Cooper S, my budget would stretch to an early one, before they changed the supercharger to a turbocharger. (or other way round)
Would appreciate input.
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Mark
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Re: Itchy V5 | DradusContact wrote: | Been thinking about getting shut of mine. Can't really think of a particular reason, still runs well enough, just getting bored, fancy a change etc.
Been thinking Cooper S, my budget would stretch to an early one, before they changed the supercharger to a turbocharger. (or other way round)
Would appreciate input. |
Great. But thirsty.
Do it.
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"him"
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The Mk1 Cooper S was supercharged.
'Turbonutter' has one I believe? try and get one with an LSD if you can (though I am note sure how rare they are?)
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Jasper
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What! apter the dogging you gave me for selling my Puma.
A year ago next month FYI.
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DradusContact
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| Jasper wrote: | What! apter the dogging you gave me for selling my Puma.
A year ago next month FYI. |
I know i know..... just bored, you know? Plus, rust is accelerating, do i really want to sink that much money into a 10 year old car.
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Roadsterstu
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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Nah, it'll break down before you even get it ...
(sorry ...  )
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"him"
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RWD is like so last century, even BMW have finally woken up to the fact... 
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gonnabuildabuggy
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| DradusContact wrote: | | Jasper wrote: | What! apter the dogging you gave me for selling my Puma.
A year ago next month FYI. |
I know i know..... just bored, you know? Plus, rust is accelerating, do i really want to sink that much money into a 10 year old car. |
What do you need to sink into it? Just run it. I suspect that it's hardly going to rust away in front of your eyes like a '70s Fiat.
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"him"
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He just wants a car that is featured in Forza3...
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DradusContact
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| gonnabuildabuggy wrote: | | What do you need to sink into it? Just run it. I suspect that it's hardly going to rust away in front of your eyes like a '70s Fiat. |
Well the rust is the main thing. Its eating into both arches, the drivers side is terrible. Stuttering when cold still isnt sorted but i think i will be able to fix this next time i get paid. It's not like its a money pit but ive had it nearly 4 years, no logical reason to sell it just fancy a change.
Not decided anything just throwing ideas around.
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Blarno
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Got 3k?
Blue Frog is yours....
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Bob Sacramento
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Scrap it and get £2k off a nice Toyota Aygo.
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Guitar Zero
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Something
With
More
Than
Four
Cylinders
That's
Longer
Than
Fifteen
Foot
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Frank Bullitt
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| Guitar Zero wrote: | Something
With
More
Than
Four
Cylinders
That's
Longer
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Fifteen
Foot |
Nissan Maxima 'QX' it is then
I suspect many Cooper S's have either been a) abused to death or b) driven by tarts who do 23mph maximum and the engine has never loosened up
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Blarno
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| Guitar Zero wrote: | Something
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Four
Cylinders
That's
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Foot |
That'll be the XR4x4 I've been eyeing up, then...
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TimR
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| Frank Bullitt wrote: |
I suspect many Cooper S's have either been a) abused to death or b) driven by tarts who do 23mph maximum and the engine has never loosened up |
Check for excessive wear on the swivel for the rear view mirror
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gonnabuildabuggy
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| DradusContact wrote: | | gonnabuildabuggy wrote: | | What do you need to sink into it? Just run it. I suspect that it's hardly going to rust away in front of your eyes like a '70s Fiat. |
Well the rust is the main thing. Its eating into both arches, the drivers side is terrible. Stuttering when cold still isnt sorted but i think i will be able to fix this next time i get paid. It's not like its a money pit but ive had it nearly 4 years, no logical reason to sell it just fancy a change.
Not decided anything just throwing ideas around. |
How bad? Bubbling under the paint or real holes? Mine has just started bubbling so I figure another year or so and it might be time to get it done.
I too get the itch but I've a burning desire to see 200K miles on the clock just to really get my monies worth.
and to answer your question, get a 330CI.
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DaveGibson
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Rusting away at 10 years old? My neighbour's 1989 Rover 214 had barely any rust when he replaced it, at 18 years of age with almost 200K on the clock, two years ago.
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Roadsterstu
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | Nah, it'll break down before you even get it ...
(sorry ... ) |
A little harsh! It's not broken down, it is just "ongoing maintenance prior to delivery".
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gonnabuildabuggy
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mine literally (at 12 yrs) has a few bubbles on the back of the rear arches - a well known E36 moisture trap.
It's only visible to me really at the moment but I plan to sort it next year at some point.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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| Roadsterstu wrote: |
It's not broken down, it is just "ongoing maintenance prior to delivery". |
Quite so. My bad.
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DradusContact
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Rust is on rear arch. Its fixable but would need cutting out and doing properly. I did it last winter with some hammerite stuff but that didnt really help, just slowed it down a bit. Its certainly not rusting away but its there, and it bothers me.
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DradusContact
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| Blarno wrote: | Got 3k?
Blue Frog is yours.... |
Renault and Peugeot are two brands i would never touch. My opinion of them is well and truly stuck and nothing will change it.
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gonnabuildabuggy
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| DradusContact wrote: | | Rust is on rear arch. Its fixable but would need cutting out and doing properly. I did it last winter with some hammerite stuff but that didnt really help, just slowed it down a bit. Its certainly not rusting away but its there, and it bothers me. |
When you say you did it with hammerite, did you take it down to bare metal?
The rust killers that don't require that will only slow it, not stop it. I'd only consider cutting it out if heavily perforated or you plan to keep the car for ever. Otherwise cut back to bare metal, prime it well, fill it and localised spray over.
Worked for me 20 yrs ago anyway! Back when cars really rusted - my 8 yr old Chevette was riddled with the stuff when I bought it.
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"him"
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| DradusContact wrote: | | Renault and Peugeot are two brands i would never touch. My opinion of them is well and truly stuck and nothing will change it. |
...and yet for cheap 'hot hatchery' they are far and away the best.
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DradusContact
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| "him" wrote: | | DradusContact wrote: | | Renault and Peugeot are two brands i would never touch. My opinion of them is well and truly stuck and nothing will change it. |
...and yet for cheap 'hot hatchery' they are far and away the best.
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I don't mind citroens, i'm not anti-french as such, but those two brands i think just arnt screwed together well enough.
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DradusContact
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| gonnabuildabuggy wrote: | When you say you did it with hammerite, did you take it down to bare metal?
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I got a wire brush, scrubbed away as much of the loose rust as i could. Then filled it in with a substance that would supposedly stop the air from getting at it. I knew it wouldn't fix it for good though.
In the grand scheme of things the rust isnt that bad but thats not the only thing making me want to change.
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gonnabuildabuggy
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| DradusContact wrote: | | gonnabuildabuggy wrote: | When you say you did it with hammerite, did you take it down to bare metal?
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I got a wire brush, scrubbed away as much of the loose rust as i could. Then filled it in with a substance that would supposedly stop the air from getting at it. I knew it wouldn't fix it for good though.
In the grand scheme of things the rust isnt that bad but thats not the only thing making me want to change. |
It never is! Man maths and reasoning always find a way!
You'd need a wire brush attachment on a drill to get it bare.
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DradusContact
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Like i say. No logical reason, car still running ok. But had it for 4 years in Feb, never had a car that long. I want that next step up in power. Ka had 60hp(count em!) Mines got 124hp, cooper s would have 170hp.
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simonp
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| DradusContact wrote: | | "him" wrote: | | DradusContact wrote: | | Renault and Peugeot are two brands i would never touch. My opinion of them is well and truly stuck and nothing will change it. |
...and yet for cheap 'hot hatchery' they are far and away the best.
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I don't mind citroens, i'm not anti-french as such, but those two brands i think just arnt screwed together well enough. |
It's Citroen you need to avoid! They're the worst of the 3, not the best.
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| simonp wrote: | | It's Citroen you need to avoid! They're the worst of the 3, not the best. |
I would agree, though there isn't much between Citroen/Peugeot really.
Renault I would say are probably the best of the 3!
(as long as we don't mention electrical problems...) Our Scenic being a case in point... 
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DradusContact
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Well my ex used to have an AX and it was really primitive. 1.0ltre with 4 gears, at a time when ford where selling the mk4 fiesta for comparison. But in terms of reliability it was solid.
We're probably all a bit irrational in our opinions but they come from somewhere. My dislike for the other two comes from people i know who have had them and had problems.
Much to my chargrin my dad has just flogged his S class and got an 807
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TimR
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A while back an AA man told us that the most unreliable cars are Renaults and it's always electrics.
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DradusContact
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Got a meeting at 4pm regarding redudancy, if that goes well then im thinking more and more about going for this.
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"him"
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Good luck with that, I hope you get what you want...
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Frank Bullitt
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| DradusContact wrote: | | "him" wrote: | | DradusContact wrote: | | Renault and Peugeot are two brands i would never touch. My opinion of them is well and truly stuck and nothing will change it. |
...and yet for cheap 'hot hatchery' they are far and away the best.
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I don't mind citroens, i'm not anti-french as such, but those two brands i think just arnt screwed together well enough. |
EH?
A number of Peugeot's and Citroen's are made in the same factory and they are generally the same cars underneath.
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Roadsterstu
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | | Roadsterstu wrote: |
It's not broken down, it is just "ongoing maintenance prior to delivery". |
Quite so. My bad.
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Actually, to fix my own post, that should read, "ongoing engineering development prior to delivery"
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simonp
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Not had any electrical probs with mine so far, mostly the seats falling apart and they're made by someone else!
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Blarno
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Other than a duff coilpack, no electrical problems with mine. Admittedly, it took a while to discover it was the coilpack and I was expecting it to be the ECU.
Shit, I just realised, I have a Renault AND a Citroen. I have a whole world of unreliability at hand!
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DradusContact
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Another thought: RX8? Even the slowest one will do 60 in 7 seconds, start on the trader at around £5,500, £6000 sees <50k miles.
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Pkh72
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My brother had an RX-8 for 18 months or so, the higher powered version, it was lovely to drive and was an ideal car for a mix of enjoying his driving and also ferrying his two sprogs around in the back when required.
Fuel consumption wasn't brilliant but the oil consumption, on his car at least, was nowhere near as bad as some of the reams of guff that's been written about it by people with zero experience of the car seems to suggest. It does use it more than more conventional engined stuff but it wasn't scarey.
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"him"
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| Blarno wrote: | | ...Shit, I just realised, I have a Renault AND a Citroen. I have a whole world of unreliability at hand! |
Me too...
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DradusContact
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Parkers indicate your lucky to get 20 to the gallon with mixed/spirited driving. That would be quite a step down, mine can be quite frugal if needed, on a pure motorway run doing 70 all the way 400 miles is easy to achieve, its only a 40 litre tank too.
Worst ive ever had was about 270 between fills, that HHRT style driving though!
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Grampa
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| DradusContact wrote: | | Another thought: RX8? Even the slowest one will do 60 in 7 seconds, start on the trader at around £5,500, £6000 sees <50k miles. |
As long as you're not going uphill - the way they drive is a real mix - beautifully balanced, great driving position - everything feels just right the minute you get in, amazingly smooth engine - then comes the lack of torque which spoilt it all for me (and that was on the faster one - which is also the only one to have a 6 speed box) - plus I could never quite decide if I liked the looks or not.
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gonnabuildabuggy
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| Grampa wrote: | | DradusContact wrote: | | Another thought: RX8? Even the slowest one will do 60 in 7 seconds, start on the trader at around £5,500, £6000 sees <50k miles. |
As long as you're not going uphill - the way they drive is a real mix - beautifully balanced, great driving position - everything feels just right the minute you get in, amazingly smooth engine - then comes the lack of torque which spoilt it all for me (and that was on the faster one - which is also the only one to have a 6 speed box) - plus I could never quite decide if I liked the looks or not. |
I cam to the conclusion they were a great car for fast, twisty roads taken flat out. As most of my driving at the time was motorways I bought the Saab instead.
They are great value now though - supposedly some have had new engines for some reason but I'm sure the RX8 forum will tell you all you need to know.
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DradusContact
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Seems like a car with character. Rarer, cheaper and faster than a mini.
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Blarno
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RX8s have an unbelievably foul interior. Shiny plastic is acceptable in a box of Milk Tray, not on a 20k+ sports car.
I don't mind them, but the power/mpg ratio is shocking. A 230 Bhp car doing 20 mpg is ridiculous. I'd be wanting at least 400 Bhp in return for 20 mpg.
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TimR
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If I had to go for a 20mpg Japanese coupe I wouldn't look past the 350Z.
I have a hairy chest
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"him"
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probably a good introduction to RWD too, no "turbo torques" to worry about, in fact very little of them at all?
I have tried to like the styling of them though, and up to now have failed. The latest Prodrive fettled ones look the best I think...
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gonnabuildabuggy
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I guess it depends on circumstances - I get 28mpg on fast (you know how fast) motorway runs, over 30 at 70ish and low 20's around town or flooring it on the back roads.
I think the RX8 does low 20's at best?
This is called Dieselcarforum though
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DradusContact
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Theyre RWD? Hmm, serious advantage in its favour, never drove RWD apart from a bit in my dads mercs, and a couple of transits.
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Blarno
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Spend 200 quid on a Sierra and learn RWD before you get a 200+ Bhp RWD car...
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"him"
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| DradusContact wrote: | | Theyre RWD?... |
Hang your head young man...
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DradusContact
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TimR
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| DradusContact wrote: | |
I should think so.
I learnt all I need to know about oversteer in a Chrysler Avenger 1.3DL on cheapo tyres.
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gonnabuildabuggy
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| TimR wrote: | | DradusContact wrote: | |
I should think so.
I learnt all I need to know about oversteer in a Chrysler Avenger 1.3DL on cheapo tyres. |
That'll be far more oversteer than you'll get out of an RX8 on fat tyres with traction control
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TimR
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| gonnabuildabuggy wrote: | | TimR wrote: | | DradusContact wrote: | |
I should think so.
I learnt all I need to know about oversteer in a Chrysler Avenger 1.3DL on cheapo tyres. |
That'll be far more oversteer than you'll get out of an RX8 on fat tyres with traction control |
Oh yes.
I had a few 'moments' including one on a tight corner on a, thankfully quiet, country road where I ended up with the front wheels on the verge and the nose of the car about 2 inches from a large stone wall.
I proceeded home at a slow pace after that one
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DradusContact
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Well the RX8 is a 1.3 technically so should be ok!
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"him"
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| DradusContact wrote: | | Well the RX8 is a 1.3 technically so should be ok! |
It depends of your "take" on the technicalities, there are two rotors in tandem, each rotor has a capacity of 640cc. The Wankel engine can generate one power impulse per central shaft rotation: a normal (Otto cycle) piston engine generates one-half of a power impulse per cylinder per crankshaft rotation. So you could argue (as do the DVLA for example) that its cc is actually 640cc X 2 rotors X 2 (due to it 'firing' twice as often) so 2.56 litres!
[shamelessly stolen from my post on another thread]
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DradusContact
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Hey, my mother was(still is) a saint!
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Matt
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The 3.5 V6 in the 350Z has over 200lb ft of torques and as high as about 280 in the last-of-the-line models that received the bonnet bulge and LED tails.
EDIT: I see 'hims' reply was to Blarno not Tim
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Grampa
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| DradusContact wrote: | | Seems like a car with character. Rarer, cheaper and faster than a mini. |
Not sure it would be faster - I only drove a Mk1 S when they first came out and the RX8 a few years later so hard to remember, but I think you may find the Mini would be faster in most real world situations.
Having said that the Mazda is a lot smoother and offers a more balanced feel to the handing.
They're so different - in both drawbacks as well as advantages, I think you'd be best to get yourself a drive in each before deciding to go for one or the other.
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DradusContact
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Group 16 insurance wont be pretty though, but then again mine has alot of declared mods, so maybe it will balence out. (Mines group 12, currently paying £550)
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Blarno
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Group 16 is nothing. Blue Frog is group 16 and that only costs me 350 notes FC.
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DradusContact
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Your an old fart though!
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Gurney
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Try group 19 and an import  That equals £750.
If the GTA had been a UK car it would only cost £350 -£400.
Insurance groups ain't necessarily as bad as they seem.
Go for the RX8 before they make it illegal.
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DradusContact
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| Gurney wrote: | | Go for the RX8 before they make it illegal. |
Wont be long looking at its emissions, 234g/km or something sinister like that
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Blarno
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| DradusContact wrote: | | Your an old fart though! |
Not as old as you think!
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Gurney
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| DradusContact wrote: | | Gurney wrote: | | Go for the RX8 before they make it illegal. |
Wont be long looking at its emissions, 234g/km or something sinister like that |
234g/km pah!
Try 284g/Km
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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Try 307! Some weenie is going to have to eat all the carbons I'm generating ...
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"him"
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Mine spits flames from the exhaust sometimes, does that count as "emissions"?
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Blarno
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| "him" wrote: | | Mine spits flames from the exhaust sometimes, does that count as "emissions"? |
Surely that's reduced emissions? Burning off all the unburnt fuel...
Flames are good.
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Gurney
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Flames should be compulsory and available in a special Prious overtaking mode, along with corrosive soot emissions.
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DradusContact
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Never quite managed flames, mine spits a bit on the over-run but its not as extreme as yours i dont think.
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Blarno
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My Mi16 was ace for flames. I overtook a mate on a bypass in 3rd gear at full chat and he says 2 quality flames popped out when I changed up.
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DradusContact
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The sad thing is you never see them yourself!
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TimR
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I can do filthy black soot from the Coupe but the best ever was my Shogun diesel.
If I had a tailgater I could make his whole car disappear
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Pkh72
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I don't get any flames from mine but i think this mountune conversion adds rice crispies to my exhaust as it now crackles and pops, no snapping though.
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