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Grampa

Interesting Astra

So for the same price as the weedy Golf with an oh-so-dull interior that was my last courtesy car, you can get a new Astra with a decent interior (doesn't mention if the leather is standard) and 0-60 in 6.6 seconds - plus it doesn't follow the 'kitted out by Halfords' look of a Focus ST: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-revi...%20Bulletin%20working%20GENEVA%20(08.03.2016)::link3_1&utm_source=20160308

If you'd been told a few years back that the 1.6 luxury model Astra was going to have this level of performance you'd have been in disbelief.

Looks promising for the VXR then.
Michael

Tidy looking car in silver.
Frank Bullitt

Yes the leather is standard on the Elite which is a full-house spec!

I do like the current Astra there are some slightly unusual angles but that's okay, it provides an interesting design overall.
Grampa

It's getting back to the days of the Ford E models in a way then - take one of the better performance specs and add a posh interior - like the 1600E was a Cortina GT with a nicer level of trim.

When it's the same price as some of the slightly posh diesels in the class, it looks very good value for money.
JohnC

I think it looks really good value especially when discounts are going to be reasonable. A new one of these or a 4 year old 40,000 mile much more basic 3 Series?

It's this kind of car at the right price that might just make a dent in the premium market or at least start the thought process.
simonp

Didn't they always make these? I remember test driving a 1.6T petrol Astra a few years back when the last model was new-ish. It was only around 160-170 BHP back then, but pretty much the same powerplant.
Boxer6

Must admit, I recall my 1994 1.8 Sport Astra with much more fondness than I thought I might when I bought it!

It followed a 1.6CD saloon and (short-lived) cabrio, and was a breath of fresh air by comparison. It also out-performed the 318 E36 I'd also considered quite comfortably; either that or the E36 drivers on the Isle of Man at the time were seriously crap!    
PhilD

Re: Interesting Astra

Grampa wrote:


If you'd been told a few years back that the 1.6 luxury model Astra was going to have this level of performance you'd have been in disbelief.



I would have. And yet.. I'm still not interested, as it's an Astra. I know this makes me a bad person.
Grampa

simonp wrote:
Didn't they always make these? I remember test driving a 1.6T petrol Astra a few years back when the last model was new-ish. It was only around 160-170 BHP back then, but pretty much the same powerplant.


I think that model wasn't anywhere near the performance though - as well as the extra 30 odd bhp I think this one has shed a bit of weight to give it the acceleration you would normally associate with a 220bhp ish car of this size.
Grampa

Re: Interesting Astra

PhilD wrote:
Grampa wrote:


If you'd been told a few years back that the 1.6 luxury model Astra was going to have this level of performance you'd have been in disbelief.



I would have. And yet.. I'm still not interested, as it's an Astra. I know this makes me a bad person.


You've caught Autocar-itis! Actually I'm quite surprised at how glowing they are about this car - the Vauxhall badge usually causes them to wear whatever's the opposite to rose-tinted spectacles.
Humphrey The Pug

Looks like the new Megane is going to have a tough time especially as the few early reviews haven't been particularly glowing and compared to the Astra above, it's quite a bit pricier too.

I saw a new Astra a few days ago, I must say it wasn't a bad looking car.
gonnabuildabuggy

In truth I think it's because it looks to be a genuinely good car.

Good looks and what looks to be a neat and good quality interior (the interior quality is the bit where it might not match the pics?), what else do you need.

I was impressed with the Astra Hire car I had for 2 months last year.

At the right price (e.g. cheaper than equivalent A3 by a margin) it could do quite well.
PG

Grampa wrote:
It's getting back to the days of the Ford E models in a way then - take one of the better performance specs and add a posh interior - like the 1600E was a Cortina GT with a nicer level of trim.

When it's the same price as some of the slightly posh diesels in the class, it looks very good value for money.


Ah the Cortina 1600E. I still get misty eyed over them.
JohnC

PG wrote:

Ah the Cortina 1600E. I still get misty eyed over them.


Gold with a vinyl roof.
Giant

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
In truth I think it's because it looks to be a genuinely good car.

Good looks and what looks to be a neat and good quality interior (the interior quality is the bit where it might not match the pics?)
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Without putting my moonboots on, so far the interior quality appears to be very good, the buttons and knobs have a quality feel with very little lateral slack which often marks out the lower quality manufacturers. Everything feels solid,  lines up, and materials are good, with one notable exception, the leather of the steering wheel has the texture and softness of cheap plastileather shoes.

Engine volume is still startlingly low, refinement generally is superb. The one noise that does make itself apparent is the 'tinging' of gravel being thrown up hitting (presumably) the underside of the floor. It's quite disconcerting how 'thin' the metal sounds. Thinking about it, kits similar to rain on the A2s roof, so perhaps the floor plan is aluminium.
Thomas Magman

Fond memories of my old Astra - a proper hot hatch



I drove the VXR at Oulton a few years ago on a VPCC day but the Corsa Nurburgring was the thriller that day for me personally
simonp

A chap I know who lives up the road has just replaced his Corsa VXR with the new shape one. Looks pretty smart in metallic grey and xenon headlights.
Grampa

Thomas Magman wrote:
Fond memories of my old Astra - a proper hot hatch



I drove the VXR at Oulton a few years ago on a VPCC day but the Corsa Nurburgring was the thriller that day for me personally


The 16V GTE was a great car in it's day - Vauxhall took me on a great day out to Millbrook in the early 90's and one of the highlights was getting driven round the handling circuit in a 16V GTE (same colour as yours) by the then British Truck Racing Champion.  I was disappointed in the first couple of laps because she only drove it like I would - then she opened it up - **** me, I would never have believed it could do what she made it do.  When I got out I looked at the tyres - they were through to the canvas...

... on the side walls!
Blarno

I loved my GTEs. Not as razor sharp as a 205 or 306, but great fun to punt around and loads of torque. Plus, I could scare the missus stiff by switching the speedo to KMH when she wasn't looking. The time she thought we were doing 145 along the M60....
Thomas Magman

Grampa wrote:
Thomas Magman wrote:
Fond memories of my old Astra - a proper hot hatch



I drove the VXR at Oulton a few years ago on a VPCC day but the Corsa Nurburgring was the thriller that day for me personally


The 16V GTE was a great car in it's day - Vauxhall took me on a great day out to Millbrook in the early 90's and one of the highlights was getting driven round the handling circuit in a 16V GTE (same colour as yours) by the then British Truck Racing Champion. I was disappointed in the first couple of laps because she only drove it like I would - then she opened it up - **** me, I would never have believed it could do what she made it do. When I got out I looked at the tyres - they were through to the canvas...

... on the side walls!


For production reasons, they were undertyred in the UK ( until they got to the Champion models ) - Opel versions came on larger wheels and tyres - as the development people said, the single best mod you could do was to fit the bigger rubber to make the most of the 16v chassis changes. Mine was on 15s and 195s - much better traction

Paul O'Neill ( Sporty Spice's relative ) took me for a flying lap in the Corsa Nurburgring at Oulton - was impressive to see what it could do on a track   ......even so, just driving it myself was pretty fun
PG

Thomas Magman wrote:
Fond memories of my old Astra - a proper hot hatch





Around 1990, I ran an 80 car fleet as part of my then job and we had one of these handed back early after somebody left. Exactly the same colour GTE. At the time I had a girlfriend who also worked for the same company and she was due a sales manager's car, so I decided she should have the GTE as her car. It was great fun to punt about.

I loved the digital speedo set up. It just all felt very Knight Rider.
Bob Sacamano

I remember there seemed to be loads of Astra GTEs in white. Very 80s.
gonnabuildabuggy

Bob Sacamano wrote:
I remember there seemed to be loads of Astra GTEs in white. Very 80s.


Ah, the 80's!

Much as I'd have loved a GTE, insurance for a 21yr old was exorbitant so I ended up with the same engine in a Cavalier SRi.
Bob Sacamano

I had a 1.6L Cavalier in white with doom black interior.

I subsequently added SRi red pinstripes down the black moldings and bumpers which obviously made it much quicker.
Grampa

A great looking car for its time too - I had an all black 1.3 base model in 1987 to which I added a nice set of alloys and painted the bumpers gloss black - a sculptor friend was rather over enthusiastic over the body shape - he thought every curve and every line was spot on.

Replaced in 1988 with a brand new Astra SRI in silver (more or less the same mechanicals as the 8V GTE) - my first brand new car with very impractical white carpets!
Blarno

Bob Sacamano wrote:
I remember there seemed to be loads of Astra GTEs in white. Very 80s.


My second one was white with the white shortcake 14" wheels. I quickly swapped them for a set of black Cavalier GSi slabs like the ones on Thomas' car.

Worth a fortune now compared to the 250 I paid for it.
Martin

I loved the white 3 door GTE as a teenager, so I got a 3 year old white 3 door 1.3L when  was 17. I loved it.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Mk 2 GTE was a great car, which made the dull Mk 3 all the more disappointing

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