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franki68

I bring shame to the forum

just had an hour in a friends cayenne turbo,so a brief summary ...

There is a lot to like.This one had a huge spec with all the 'driving ' options on bar ceramics,so the pasm,pdcc,torque vectoring etc .This means in sportmode the car corners completely flat which is very unusual for such a car .It's very fast and rides fairly well in comfort mode (it has air suspension) .
The car feels much smaller than it is when you are driving it ,and although you have an elevated driving position you feel like you are sat in it rather than on it which you get in some large 4x4s.
the interior is excellent,magnificent seats ,good quality but whilst I am a fan of buttons over a computer screen with sub menus etc ,there are just far too many ,I'm sure with time you get used to them and then it comes into its own as you are not scouring through menus trying to change the ride height etc,but on initial use its a bit messy.
Stuff I didn't like ..The engine is very strong,but there is noticeable turbo lag ,the gearbox is full auto and whilst it is fine for an auto ,the car would benefit from a pdk box to give the driver more control.
the steering is very accurate and light but lacks any feel (anyone who drives a 991 and complains it has no steering feel really should drive one of these to see what no steering feel feels like.)
Overall though its hugely impressive,not as comfortable as a range rover ,but a lot more fun to drive .





the test drive was out of curiosity not because I am about to buy one before anyone asks.
Roadsterstu

But you are lookng now, aren't you...?
TreVoR

I don't understand the Cayenne and Panamera hatred. I like both.
gonnabuildabuggy

TreVoR wrote:
I don't understand the Cayenne and Panamera hatred. I like both.


Same.

Someone on another forum I frequent has just bought a £9K Cayenne, spent another £1K sorting bits out and loves it.

It's the running costs that put me off (and obviously my pockets have a limit to their depth).
Martin

TreVoR wrote:
I don't understand the Cayenne and Panamera hatred. I like both.


So do I.  In the right spec of course, not the chavtastic Cayennes or Panameras on tiny wheels in light colours.
TreVoR

Goes without saying!

I am with GBB on running costs. I can stomach the Merc's costs but I suspect a Cayenne or Panamera will be in a different league!
Andy C

Never liked the cayenne, but range rover aside, I don't like any of them !

I can imagine a panamera is a great car to drive/be driven in, whatever. but my god it's ugly , regardless of spec . Give me a rapide any day.
franki68

Roadsterstu wrote:
But you are lookng now, aren't you...?



No,I'm besotted with the Aston at the moment,but if I was looking at going to one car like I was a few months back the cayenne would now be on the short list.
Twelfth Monkey

Andy C wrote:
Never liked the cayenne, but range rover aside, I don't like any of them !


I'm with you. Apart from the Range Rover.
Big Blue

I only like the GL Merc and would probably drive it with this playing:

Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt.
Bob Sacamano

Mrs. Sacamano likes these and is looking to replace her 500C with a Cayenne. I can only assume she's going to be using the proceeeds of my life insurance policy.
gonnabuildabuggy

Big Blue wrote:
I only like the GL Merc and would probably drive it with this playing:

Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt.


My brother (well his wife) has a GL and it is indeed a thing of gorgeousness.
PG

TreVoR wrote:
I don't understand the Cayenne and Panamera hatred. I like both.


Same here, but I think that the Cayenne suffers from an even worse image than the RRS.

Our European MD had a Cayenne Turbo for a while and I did once passenger in it. He drove it like he stole it. Flat out everywhere and traffic rules did not apply to him. I think he had a direct debit with the Belgian and French police for the fines he must have wracked up.
Tim

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
I only like the GL Merc and would probably drive it with this playing:

Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt.


My brother (well his wife) has a GL and it is indeed a thing of gorgeousness.


My MD has a GL and it is a gigantic piece of shite, visually.
It probably doesn't help that it's white.
Big Blue

Tim wrote:


My MD has a GL and it is a gigantic piece of shite, visually.
It probably doesn't help that it's white.


Yes; hugely spec sensitive. MUST have the full running boards (not the van-inspired bump bars!) and be Black. Avoid that black interior or it looks like a cave in there!
Martin

My cousins Husband used to run a black ML as his main car, but he was able to switch to a C63 when he wanted something a bit more entertaining, as he ran MB World at the time.

He's now UK Marketing Director for MB UK (still responsible for MB world) and is currently running a CLS 63AMG Sportbrake.   It probably costs him less a month than the tax on mine!
Blarno

If I had to, gun against head, buy a posh roader, it would likely be a Cayenne.

I think they may be a bit troublesome as they are one of the more popular cars in the workshop.
simonp

TreVoR wrote:
I don't understand the Cayenne and Panamera hatred. I like both.


Me too, but I only like the current shape Cayenne. The earlier ones were rather hideous.
TreVoR

Blarno wrote:
If I had to, gun against head, buy a posh roader, it would likely be a Cayenne.

I think they may be a bit troublesome as they are one of the more popular cars in the workshop.


I think the Porsche V8 has a legendary reputation for borking itself.
gonnabuildabuggy

TreVoR wrote:
Blarno wrote:
If I had to, gun against head, buy a posh roader, it would likely be a Cayenne.

I think they may be a bit troublesome as they are one of the more popular cars in the workshop.


I think the Porsche V8 has a legendary reputation for borking itself.


It does, hence my comments re running costs. One of the cars where you need to budget for a rebuild.

The chain system on the S4 is another and someone on another forum has just had to fork out £4K for that piece of work.
simonp

Engine out job apparently. Another issue on the S4 is the auxiliary radiators rotting out. Audi have never fixed the issue properly and they still do it. About a grand to fix.
franki68

Martin wrote:
My cousins Husband used to run a black ML as his main car, but he was able to switch to a C63 when he wanted something a bit more entertaining, as he ran MB World at the time.

He's now UK Marketing Director for MB UK (still responsible for MB world) and is currently running a CLS 63AMG Sportbrake.   It probably costs him less a month than the tax on mine!



I can't decide whether those look superb,or far too big .
Alf McQueef

I think the CLS sportbrake looks lovely - for me it's too big, I spend enough time on tiny lanes around here not to want anything much wider than a 3 series, but if that was not a concern I'd have one for sure!

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