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gonnabuildabuggy

Hard to beat

This looks good

http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201401181122797
Chip Butty

Front wheel drive and CVT gearbox ?

I'm ooot
Tim

What would that've cost new?
Martin

Tim wrote:
What would that've cost new?


Not sure what the discounts were then, but just under £40k now.
Bryan M

Now that A7 I like - the multitronic box is one of the few autos that I actually like
JohnC

Martin wrote:
Tim wrote:
What would that've cost new?


Not sure what the discounts were then, but just under £40k now.


This one has a few extras and discounts weren't very high back in 2011, so likely to have been a £41/£42K car.
JohnC

Chip Butty wrote:
Front wheel drive and CVT gearbox ?

I'm ooot


The CVT gearbox would put me off too but it appears that Audi have both CVT boxes and normal autos with paddles. Is there any way to tell what box a particular car has?
Frank Bullitt

Chip Butty wrote:
Front wheel drive and CVT gearbox ?

I'm ooot


+1
Mark

I'd rather take something like this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...earlynew%2Cnew/make/bmw?logcode=p
JohnC

Mark wrote:
I'd rather take something like this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...earlynew%2Cnew/make/bmw?logcode=p


These are fantastic value at the moment. I was offered one about 2 or 3 years ago on a lease from my local dealer at £399/mth incl VAT - I wonder if these are the cars that are now coming to the market used.
simonp

JohnC wrote:
Chip Butty wrote:
Front wheel drive and CVT gearbox ?

I'm ooot


The CVT gearbox would put me off too but it appears that Audi have both CVT boxes and normal autos with paddles. Is there any way to tell what box a particular car has?


The DSG version is called S Tronic. Personally, I'd rather the A5 Sportback.
Bob Sacamano

The Audi cvt is horrible and downright dangerous with its lethargy on take off at junctions and roundabouts.
Frank Bullitt

JohnC wrote:
Chip Butty wrote:
Front wheel drive and CVT gearbox ?

I'm ooot


The CVT gearbox would put me off too but it appears that Audi have both CVT boxes and normal autos with paddles. Is there any way to tell what box a particular car has?


2wd cars are multitronic and 4wd cars are traditional slushers with DSG replacing both over time. CVT cars have 8 pre defined 'gears' and as Bob says, are dangerous off the line.
JohnC

simonp wrote:
The DSG version is called S Tronic. Personally, I'd rather the A5 Sportback.


Me too. But on a pure value for money comparison the A7's are cheaper and better specced than the A5's. The A5 is a better looking car but it and the A7 are very wheel and colour sensitive. The standard 5 spoke alloys on an A5 SLine Sportsback make it look very mundane and slightly too high.

To be honest this would interest me much more:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ne-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l?logcode=p
Martin

JohnC wrote:
To be honest this would interest me much more:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ne-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l?logcode=p


With a £5,000 discount and low rate finance, I wouldn't buy a 12 month old M135i, even at that price (which isn't bad).
JohnC

Martin wrote:
JohnC wrote:
To be honest this would interest me much more:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ne-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l?logcode=p


With a £5,000 discount and low rate finance, I wouldn't buy a 12 month old M135i, even at that price (which isn't bad).


But one with that spec and £5K discount would still cost you £33K
Martin

JohnC wrote:
Martin wrote:
JohnC wrote:
To be honest this would interest me much more:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ne-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l?logcode=p


With a £5,000 discount and low rate finance, I wouldn't buy a 12 month old M135i, even at that price (which isn't bad).


But one with that spec and £5K discount would still cost you £33K


True. I was thinking more about the spec I'd want, which comes to £30k.  We wouldn't want a 5 door, black paint or an auto, but would want the comfort pack, Sat Nav and Adaptive suspension.  However, it's missing memory seats, keyless entry and a couple of other things that we would want.

This is the problem with used cars!  
JohnC

Martin wrote:
True. I was thinking more about the spec I'd want, which comes to £30k.  We wouldn't want a 5 door, black paint or an auto, but would want the comfort pack, Sat Nav and Adaptive suspension.  However, it's missing memory seats, keyless entry and a couple of other things that we would want.

This is the problem with used cars!  


Absolutely and I wouldn't necessarily have black and would like the memory seats. Actually it might be daft but I like the memory seats because it auto dips the nearside mirror when you go into reverse and also because once a year some mechanic gets in to the car and changes every conceivable setting on the seat - with the number of permutations of position on a BMW sport seat, it used to take me a good few days to get back to where I was comfortable on my 320D.

I can't decide what to do about my car - a long talk with a client made me realise that a lot of money can be wasted by buying nice new cars and £10K extra into a pension or ISA is much more sensible than buying new. On the other hand I could take advantage of a cheap lease deal with whatever is on special at the time, or I could buy much cheaper and get something just as much fun, like the M135i, which will still be worth £12K in 3 or 4 years time.
Martin

Choosing a new car shouldn't be so difficult, it should be fun!

I'm going backwards and forwards over options all the time and we're not yet in the position to buy something, who knows what it's going to be like when we start looking seriously?!

Memory seats would be great, as Lindsay has a very different driving position to me, but it narrows the options down considerably.
Mark

JohnC wrote:
Martin wrote:
True. I was thinking more about the spec I'd want, which comes to £30k.  We wouldn't want a 5 door, black paint or an auto, but would want the comfort pack, Sat Nav and Adaptive suspension.  However, it's missing memory seats, keyless entry and a couple of other things that we would want.

This is the problem with used cars!  


Absolutely and I wouldn't necessarily have black and would like the memory seats. Actually it might be daft but I like the memory seats because it auto dips the nearside mirror when you go into reverse and also because once a year some mechanic gets in to the car and changes every conceivable setting on the seat - with the number of permutations of position on a BMW sport seat, it used to take me a good few days to get back to where I was comfortable on my 320D.

I can't decide what to do about my car - a long talk with a client made me realise that a lot of money can be wasted by buying nice new cars and £10K extra into a pension or ISA is much more sensible than buying new. On the other hand I could take advantage of a cheap lease deal with whatever is on special at the time, or I could buy much cheaper and get something just as much fun, like the M135i, which will still be worth £12K in 3 or 4 years time.


Is that a recent thing, John? I don't have memory seats but my mirror does dip when selecting reverse.

I think the 1 Series has to be a 3 door to look 'right'.
JohnC

Mark wrote:
Is that a recent thing, John? I don't have memory seats but my mirror does dip when selecting reverse.

I think the 1 Series has to be a 3 door to look 'right'.


It was the position when I got my car in Dec 2006 and I had just assumed it was still the same. If it isn't, then that solves a problem and makes my life a lot easier.
Mark

JohnC wrote:
Mark wrote:
Is that a recent thing, John? I don't have memory seats but my mirror does dip when selecting reverse.

I think the 1 Series has to be a 3 door to look 'right'.


It was the position when I got my car in Dec 2006 and I had just assumed it was still the same. If it isn't, then that solves a problem and makes my life a lot easier.


Now that I think about it, I'm fairly sure that not all cars do it (well E92's). I think you might need to have ticked the power folding mirrors box to get the dipping function.
JohnC

Mark wrote:
JohnC wrote:
Mark wrote:
Is that a recent thing, John? I don't have memory seats but my mirror does dip when selecting reverse.

I think the 1 Series has to be a 3 door to look 'right'.


It was the position when I got my car in Dec 2006 and I had just assumed it was still the same. If it isn't, then that solves a problem and makes my life a lot easier.


Now that I think about it, I'm fairly sure that not all cars do it (well E92's). I think you might need to have ticked the power folding mirrors box to get the dipping function.


That's a cheaper option than the memory seats!
gonnabuildabuggy

Frank Bullitt wrote:
JohnC wrote:
Chip Butty wrote:
Front wheel drive and CVT gearbox ?

I'm ooot


The CVT gearbox would put me off too but it appears that Audi have both CVT boxes and normal autos with paddles. Is there any way to tell what box a particular car has?


2wd cars are multitronic and 4wd cars are traditional slushers with DSG replacing both over time. CVT cars have 8 pre defined 'gears' and as Bob says, are dangerous off the line.


Hadn't twigged it was not a Quattro as the other's I'd browsed were. Still you can get an A7 Quattro (albeit leggier for that money)
Martin

According to the BMW brochure, only memory seats gives you the parking mirror dipping function on the current 3 / 4 / 5 series.
JohnC

Martin wrote:
According to the BMW brochure, only memory seats gives you the parking mirror dipping function on the current 3 / 4 / 5 series.


Another way of improving the profit margin at the stroke of a pen! See what geniuses accountants are  
Frank Bullitt

Martin wrote:
Choosing a new car shouldn't be so difficult, it should be fun!

I'm going backwards and forwards over options all the time and we're not yet in the position to buy something, who knows what it's going to be like when we start looking seriously?!


That's one reason why were sticking with the Picasso for the time being - I'm getting bored of looking at cars that don't work for a number of reasons of spec, and why we considered a new C3 Picasso to get the spec we wanted!
JohnC

So are we agreed then that cars should just go back to L, LS, GLS and Ghia or similar with the only option being the colour and how much you want the extras each level brings.
Frank Bullitt

More that there's stuff you'd expect the GL to have that's missing - I guess in them there olden days it's how your budget collided with how much essential stuff you could live without (nah, screw the front headrests that will save my neck in an accident and who needs a passengers wing mirror anyway?) and the stuff that seems to be willingly removed from what you'd expect.
gooner

JohnC wrote:
Chip Butty wrote:
Front wheel drive and CVT gearbox ?

I'm ooot


The CVT gearbox would put me off too but it appears that Audi have both CVT boxes and normal autos with paddles. Is there any way to tell what box a particular car has?


I seem to remember that the 2.7 TDI was the CVT and the 3.0 was the normal auto. But that was in the A6 and probably before the role out of DSG (sorry, S tronic), but I presume the samr applied to the A7.

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