Twelfth Monkey
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Goody-Goody-yum-yum?Goodyear asymmetrics fitted yesterday, largely chosen over replacement Pirelli P-zeroes because the camber-hunting properties had started to irrirate me. The Pirellis were quiet, rode fantstically well and made for a more playful experience when pressing on. The OEM Conti's tracked arrow-straight, but were lacking when it came to ride, progressiveness and road noise. Never again...
So I've opted for the Goodyears, though my ability to accurately compare is hampered:
1) The Pirellis were heavily worn, and comparing such a tyre with a new one is always difficult.
2) I'd only had my car back for a couple of days, and was still acclimatising after three weeks in Debbie.
3) New tyres don't give of their best straight away.
Nonetheless, there seem some points worth noting:
Ride: Much closer to the Pirellis than the Contis, and at speed I think they are marginally better. At urban speeds, the ride is a little less pliant; that said, even though they say they had adhered to my tyre pressures, I wonder of running just the teensiest bit less pressure might help.
Road noise: Very quiet indeed. May be as much down to them being new, but the noise floor seems to have dropped to the extent that I can hear more of the engine at lower revs.
Steering feel: A marginal improvement, though there is definitely more resistance immediately off dead centre, which I like. The steering has a little more weight, and tracks rather better.
Grip/handling: I haven't pushed too hard as of yet, but the signs are good. There is definitely more bite to turn-in. I just hope they will have the Pirelli's talkativeness in extremis.
Mrs 12th would consider all this rather anorakish, and I think she may be right...
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Eff One
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Re: Goody-Goody-yum-yum? | Twelfth Monkey wrote: | | Mrs 12th would consider all this rather anorakish, and I think she may be right... |
No, all sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
You should hear some of the discussions ALF and I have about the intricacies of kart/race car behaviour - what we put on here barely scratches the surface.
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DaveGibson
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The Goodyear asymmetrics have a very good score for noise suppression on the tyretest.com site. I don't need to replace my tyres yet but Goodyear don't list the size I need for the rear wheels (245/45/17) but they do have the 225/45/17s for the front.
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Twelfth Monkey
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Lawks, they're good in the wet. Utterly unimpeachable in traction (as you would hope), but with a sharper turn-in and oodles of feel.
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Apex clipper
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Looks very much like you've found your brand. How many times have people conveyed too me that they picked..such 'n' such tyre at a bargin price without a thought into exactly the essence of the virtues of a good tyre.
Is it the fact that the cars held within this Forum are driven by enthusiasts or correct me if I'm wrong...most folks see them as rubber things that encircle a metal ring.
I guess the RS4 is a talkative..thing....yes?
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Gurney
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| Apex clipper wrote: | Looks very much like you've found your brand. How many times have people conveyed too me that they picked..such 'n' such tyre at a bargin price without a thought into exactly the essence of the virtues of a good tyre.
Is it the fact that the cars held within this Forum are driven by enthusiasts or correct me if I'm wrong...most folks see them as rubber things that encircle a metal ring.
I guess the RS4 is a talkative..thing....yes?  |
If I had a pound for the number of times friends had bought 'bargain' rubber with no thought to anything other than the effect it had on the contents of their walletts/purses then I too would be in an RS4.
It's one of the most considered decisions I ever make when it comes round to new rubber time.
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gonnabuildabuggy
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As per other thread, now wondering if I should have gone for something slightly better than the Falken FK452's just ordered. Having lost the last two tyres due to punctures I'm wary of lashing big cash on something that might not last too long.
Perhaps an extra £15 for the proxes would have been worth it.
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the other ct
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I'm sure Apex will soon be along to reassure you!
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Twelfth Monkey
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| Apex clipper wrote: | Looks very much like you've found your brand. How many times have people conveyed too me that they picked..such 'n' such tyre at a bargin price without a thought into exactly the essence of the virtues of a good tyre.
Is it the fact that the cars held within this Forum are driven by enthusiasts or correct me if I'm wrong...most folks see them as rubber things that encircle a metal ring.
I guess the RS4 is a talkative..thing....yes?  |
I find it so, yes. Its interesting that the feeling of 'plantedness' is so enhanced in the wet, so much so that eyes closed you'd probably not realise it was wet. Obviously the limits will be lower...
I won't feel entirely happy until I've had a few dry days to try them on a lovely set of bends on my way home. The first day was dry, but I kept plenty in reserve, and it's either rained since then or I've had to take the motorway because of time pressures. My gut instinct is that in the dry, the Goodyears will lack that last few percent of the Pirellis progressiveness.
But overall, it seems the Goodyears are probably the best match I've found, though.
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Apex clipper
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| the other ct wrote: | | I'm sure Apex will soon be along to reassure you! |
Let's have the Report After a few miles..shall we! I'm aware that Falkens arn't the mainstay of what folks deem the arbitrary tyre of choice..but hey...I've just a lowly RS.
>Pokes tongue out smily<
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GonnaBreakABuggy
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| Twelfth Monkey wrote: | My gut instinct is that in the dry, the Goodyears will lack that last few percent of the Pirellis progressiveness.
But overall, it seems the Goodyears are probably the best match I've found, though. |
The previous F1's were really, really predicatable - you could be millimetre perfect even with the car sliding...I'd hope the new ones were the same.
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Twelfth Monkey
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One thing I've noticed without looking for it. Let the Goodyears fall much below the correct pressure and the ride deteriorates markedly; far more so than I've noticed on any other tyre and massively more so that the Pirellis.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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Does the RS4 have any kind of tyre-pressure monitoring?
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Twelfth Monkey
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Yes, but I'd describe it as 'approximate'. Pressures should be 2.6 front (usually run at 2.5) and 2.4 rear. Mine were down to 2.1-2.2 all around.
Funnily enough, the only thing that triggered the tyre pressure warning was parking on a cobbled street for a couple of hours.
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simonp
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Considered nitrogen? It's only around £2 a tyre, I believe.
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TimR
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| simonp wrote: | | Considered nitrogen? It's only around £2 a tyre, I believe. |
He'll have the FIA at his door with a demand for $100million if he tries that
My M5 has a tyre pressure monitoring thing but according to the handbook it only triggers if there's a largeish diffierence between the 2 tyres on the same axle and it doesn't respond immediately therefore it won't alert you to a blowout.
According to practical experience it's a complete waste of time and will happily throw up a warning for no reason.
If it was a Fiat it'd be characterful according to owners and a symptom of 'typical Italian electrics' to everyone else.
Since the car is German it's quietly ignored
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