Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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F1 Game - TurkeyTime to post your guesses for the next race, keeping in mind who's won here for the last three years, perhaps? Usual stuff - pole, fastest lap, top eight finishers, and bonus question: which nationality will have the most drivers in the points?
Deadline: Friday 5 June 2359 GMT
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BeN
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Turkey is a circuit that Ferrari tend to do well, and if they can improve on their Monaco form, they will definitely be up there. But Button seems rather unstoppable though.
Perhaps to help out with the bonus question, there are currently the following nationalities in F1 this season:
5 Germans
3 Brazilians
2 Finns
2 Brits
2 Italians
1 Pole
1 Spanish
1 French
1 Swiss
1 Australian
1 Japanese
P.S. What if there's a tie? Say, two Brits and two Brazilians finish in the points.
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Rodge
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Go with the highest placed nationality in that case. 2 Brits (in the points), one wins/2 Germans, one is second, give the point to the Brits.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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| BeN wrote: | | P.S. What if there's a tie? Say, two Brits and two Brazilians finish in the points. |
Then either British or Brazilian will count as a correct guess.
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Big Blue
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: |
Then either British or Brazilian will count as a correct guess. |
My g/f has a Brazilian but I can't guess what a "British" is. Utterly unkempt pubic hair, exploding out of the bikini line whilst sitting with legs open?
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BeN
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Thanks for the mental image... 
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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| Big Blue wrote: | | ... I can't guess what a "British" is. Utterly unkempt pubic hair, exploding out of the bikini line whilst sitting with legs open? |
Nah, that's a German. TMI, BTW ...
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Big TC
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Aaaaaanyway....
Pole: Button
F/L: Vettel
Bonus: Brazil
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Barichello
4. Raikkonen
5. Massa
6. Alonso
7. Trulli
8. Glock
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BeN
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Hmm...
I'm gonna take a risk on this one.
1) Raikkonen
2) Massa
3) Button
4) Barrichello
5) Vettel
6) Alonso
7) Hamilton
8) Kovaleinen
Pole: Raikkonen
Fastest: Massa
Bonus: Brazil
(Despite me having 2 Brazilians, 2 Brits and 2 Finns in the points)
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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| BeN wrote: | | (Despite me having 2 Brazilians, 2 Brits and 2 Finns in the points) |
As before, your bonus guess and top eight guess don't have to be consistent.
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Eff One
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Ah, Turkey. The Bosphorus, stray dogs and the world's only quadruple apex 160mph left-hander. Best of the new circuits IMO, with some good overtaking opportunities.
This, I think, is going to be a proper bunfight and could well be the first time we see the Brawn Supremacy threatened. Ferrari have made a huge leap forward and have a great record here, while Red Bull's new aero bits should be more effective than they were in Monaco. Toyota are on the warpath after a disastrous Monaco and should bounce right back.
And please, please let's not have any more animals running around on the track. That was shit-the-bed scary last year.
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TimR
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Pole: Vettel
F/L: Button
Bonus: Germany
1) Vettel
2) Button
3) Barrichello
4) Massa
5) Trulli
6) Webber
7) Hamilton
8) Rosberg
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Humphrey The Pug
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Pole: Button
F/L: Massa
Bonus: UK
1. Button
2. Massa
3. Vettel
4. Barrichello
5. Raikkonnen
6: Webber
7: Trulli
8: Hamilton
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Gooner
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Pole: Massa
FL: Massa
1. Massa
2. Button
3. Barrichello
4. Vettel
5. Lewis
6. Alonso
7. Webber
8. Pique
Bonus, I'm going for Brazilians on this one.
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Scouse
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Pole: Button
F/L: Button
Bonus: UK
1. Button
2. Barrichello
3. Vettel
4. Massa
5. Raikkonnen
6: Hamilton
7: Trulli
8: Rosberg
One of these days Rosberg is going to repay my faith in him and actually score me a point!
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Eff One
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No clues at all from practice then... Mclaren, Renault and BMW on top, seven tenths covering the top 16.
Pole: Vettel
F/L: Massa
1. Vettel
2. Massa
3. Button
4. Raikkonen
5. Alonso
6. Rosberg
7. Kovalainen
8. Heidfeld
Bonus: Germany
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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Pole: Massa
Lap: Raikkonen
Bonus: Brazil
1 Button
2 Massa
3 Raikkonen
4 Vettel
5 Barrichello
6 Trulli
7 Webber
8 Hamilton
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Rodge
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Pole : Button
Lap : Trulli
Bonus: Germany
1: Button
2: Vettel
3: Trulli
4: Raikkonen
5: Hamilton
6: Heidfeld
7: Massa
8: Glock
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Andy C
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Pole: Button
F/L: Massa
Bonus: Germany
1. Button
2. Massa
3. Vettel
4. Hamilton
5. Rosberg
6: Trulli
7: Raikkonen
8: Alonso
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Nice Guy Eddie
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Pole - Button
FL - Vettel
Bonus - Germany
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Barrachello
4. Massa
5. Webber
6. Hamilton
7. Raikonnen
8. Alonso
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Matt
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Pole: Massa
FL: Button
Bonus - Brazil
1. Button
2. Massa
3. Raikkonen
4. Barrichello
5. Webber
6. Vettel
7. Hamilton
8. Alonso
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the other ct
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Tough one to call but I'll go for
Pole: Trulli
Lap: Raikkonen
Bonus: Brazil
1) Vettel
2) Barrichello
3) Button
4) Raikkonen
5) Massa
6) Trulli
7) Webber
8) Hamilton
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Sav
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1. Button
2. Barrichello
3. Vettel
4. Webber
4. Rosberg
5. Alonso
6. Hamilton
7. Kubica
8. Trulli
Pole: Button
Fastest lap: Barrichello
Bonus: Brazil
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Mrs Skyhook
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Pole: Button
F/L: Button
Bonus: Brazil
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Barrichello
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Alonso
7. Kimi
8. Glock
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Skyhook
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Pole: Button
Fastest Lap: Barrichello
Bonus: Germany
1st: Button
2nd: Raikkonen
3rd: Barrichello
4th: Vettel
5th: Hamilton
6th: Webber
7th: Alonso
8th: Rosberg
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Stuntman
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Pole: Massa
Fastest: Massa
Bonus: Germany
1. Massa
2. Button
3. Kimi
4. Barrichello
5. Vettel
6. Hamilton
7. Rosberg
8. Kubica
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Chris M Wants a V-10
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Pole: Button
Fastest lap: Massa
Bonus: Germany
1. Button
2. Massa
3. Vettel
4. Barrichello
5. Raikkonen
6. Webber
7. Hamilton
8. Rosberg
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Big Blue
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Pole: Massa
Fastest Lap: Massa
Bonus: Britain
1st: Raikkonen
2nd: Button
3rd: Vettel
4th: Massa
5th: Hamilton
6th: Barrichello
7th: Trulli
8th: Rosberg
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BJH
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I'm late, I know, apply whatever the penalty is.
Pole: Button
F/L: Button
Bonus: Brazil
1. Button
2. Massa
3. Barrichello
4. Vettel
5. Webber
6. Alonso
7. Hamilton
8. Kimi
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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Hamilton eliminated in Q1 - spun out at turn 8
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BeN
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Second race in a row too.
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Eff One
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | | Hamilton eliminated in Q1 - spun out at turn 8 |
He didn't, did he? I saw him get a bit loose, but I didn't think he went off. He was just slow.
TimR and I got pole right. Go Sebastian!
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TimR
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| Eff One wrote: |
TimR and I got pole right. Go Sebastian! |
Since we appear(ed) to be the same person we would accept nothing less 
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BeN
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Vettel drove a fantastic race. One wonders if he had a different strategy, he could have potentially overtaken Button for the win.
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Big TC
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| BeN wrote: | | Vettel drove a fantastic race. One wonders if he had a different strategy, he could have potentially overtaken Button for the win. |
One also wonders if he'd have stayed on the track on the first lap, would he have hung on for the win...?
(In either case, the answer's probably 'no'.)
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Sav
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I accidentally put two fourth places, would it be possible to ignore the second 4th place of Rosberg? 
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BeN
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| Big TC wrote: | | BeN wrote: | | Vettel drove a fantastic race. One wonders if he had a different strategy, he could have potentially overtaken Button for the win. |
One also wonders if he'd have stayed on the track on the first lap, would he have hung on for the win...?
(In either case, the answer's probably 'no'.) |
I missed the start, so I didn't see the incident.
What happened to Barrichello too?
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Gooner
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He lunched his gearbox after the clutch didn't engage at the start. This caused the anti-stall to kick in and too much torque sent through first gear - like the Focus RS, torque from an F1 cars engine is restricted in first gear to protect the transmissions. He subsequently lost 7th gear and was retired whilst the gearbox was still repairable and before the damaged gear took out the rest of the box. He had no chance of a points finish at the time so it wasn't worth risking a gearbox as they only get to use 8 throughout the season - he'll probably get a new one for Silverstone with today's box bought back later in the season.
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Frank Bullitt
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Button did an excellent job...nay, the whole team did an excellent job; his driving style is very, very calm and commanding.
As for Hamilton, no wonder he's going backwards as the car looks like a cocaine-powered barge rolling on marbles - just awful.
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Humphrey The Pug
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Did any one hear Barrichello hinting that it was odd that things break or only go against him and not Button, sour grapes!!
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Chris M Wants a V-10
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| Humphrey The Pug wrote: | | Did any one hear Barrichello hinting that it was odd that things break or only go against him and not Button, sour grapes!! |
Wonder if smooth driving has anything to do with this? 
Less severe loads on steering and suspension components, less stress on engine, clutch and gearbox etc etc
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DaveGibson
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It was the same back in 1967 with the new Lotus 49. Graham Hill's broke and Jim Clark won four races, because he was much easier on the car.
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Big TC
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Well, I think its now safe to call Jensen Button the 2009 World Champion.
Anyone disagree?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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1 Button
2 Webber
3 Vettel
4 Trulli
5 Rosberg
6 Massa
7 Kubica
8 Glock
9 Raikkonen
Pole: Vettel
Lap: Button
Bonus: Germany (3 - Vettel, Rosberg, Glock)
Scores:
10 - Andy C
9 - Rodge, Mrs Skyhook
8 - Big TC
7 - Scouse, Chris M
6 - Humphrey, Sav, BJH
5 - Tim R, Nice Guy Eddie, Skyhook
4 - Dr H, Matt, Big Blue
3 - Eff One, Stuntman
2 - Gooner
1 - the other ct
0 - BeN
Deemed (0 points):
Giant
Standings:
49 - Chris M
46 - Sav
45 - Rodge
41 - Big Blue
40 - Mrs Skyhook, Nice Guy Eddie
39 - Big TC
38 - Humphrey
36 - Dr H, Scouse
35 - Stuntman
34 - Eff One, Tim R, BJH
32 - Matt, Andy C
31 - the other ct
30 - BeN
29 - Skyhook
27 - Giant
23 - Gooner
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BeN
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Big fat zero. 
My gamble didn't pay off..
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TimR
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| Humphrey The Pug wrote: | | Did any one hear Barrichello hinting that it was odd that things break or only go against him and not Button, sour grapes!! |
They made the point in commentary that it happened to him at Ferrari too.
I wonder how much of McLarens apparent development problems are being caused by 2 young, inexperienced drivers.
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Eff One
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Disappointing race for me - I hoped for more points having correctly predicted pole, the bonus and the fact the Barrichello would not score. On Rubens and sour grapes, it must be bloody difficult feeling that you're doing everything right, only for all the results to go the other guy's way. Button is the better driver, but Ruby's certainly got what it takes to win races. I'm not sure if the clutch issue was something he did or a fault on the car, but was under the impression that it's pretty hard for a driver to damage gearboxes and engines these days.
Mclaren's development woes are caused by a double-barrel of in-season testing ban and the lack of a good test driver.
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Sav
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| Eff One wrote: | but Ruby's certainly got what it takes to win races.
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Unlikely, unless Button has a technical problem.
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Chris M Wants a V-10
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| Eff One wrote: |
Mclaren's development woes are caused by a double-barrel of in-season testing ban and the lack of a good test driver. |
Yes, development woes........ but the fact is that the basic car is a pile of dog poo and it's hard to develop a crap piece of machinery into a race winner in just one season when there is very little testing permitted
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DaveGibson
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Brawn seem to have got it right with only four days (was it?) of testing.
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TimR
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Ah but they had a whole season of development before that.
Anyway McLaren used to be pretty good at unveiling their car a week before the season and winning the first race.
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