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Dr. Hfuhruhurr

F1 Game 2015 - Canada

Next race coming up with another wall to catch out the unwary. Great circuit too. All you need to go is guess the top ten finishers, pole sitter and fastest lapper. And answer the bonus question: what will be the winner's average speed in kmh (one point for the closest)?

Deadline: Friday 5 June 2359 GMT
Sav

I always look forward to this GP, the best circuit on the calendar for racing.
JohnC

I'll give it a go nice and early:

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus: 186.2km/hr

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Vettel
4. Raikkonen
5. Bottas
6. Ricciardo
7. Massa
8. Kyvatt
9. Hulkenberg
10. Verstappen
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Pole/lap Hamilton
Bonus 194.382

1 Hamilton
2 Rosberg
3 Vettel
4 Raikkonen
5 Bottas
6 Massa
7 Grosjean
8 Nasr
9 Hulkenberg
10 Sainz
PhilD

is nobody playing? How can I answer the bonus question if I can't use the average of everyone else's guess?  
Humphrey The Pug

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus: 195.315

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Rosberg
4. Kimi
5. Ricciardo
6. Bottas
8. Grosjean
9. Massa
10. Verstappen
Big Blue

Pole: Rosberg
F/L: Raikkonen
Bonus: 193.2kph

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Rosberg
4. Raikkonen
5. Bottas
6. Verstappen
7. Massa
8. Sainz
9. Ricciardo
10. Nasr
Eff One

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Vettel
Bonus: 189.7 km/h

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Raikkonen
4. Rosberg
5. Massa
6. Bottas
7. Grosjean
8. Ricciardo
9. Hulkenberg
10. Maldonado
the other ct

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Vettel
Bonus: 191.4

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Raikkonen
4. Vettel
5. Grosjean
6. Bottas
7. Ricciardo
8. Verstappen
9. Kyvatt
10. Hulkenberg
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Pole : Hamilton
F/Lap : Hamilton
Bonus : 190.1

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Vettel
4. Grosjean
5. Bottas
6. Raikkonen
7. Massa
8. Kvyat
9. Maldonado
10. Ricciardo
BeN

O Canada!

1) Hamilton
2) Rosberg
3) Vettel
4) Raikkonen
5) Bottas
6) Massa
7) Nasr
8) Button
9) Ericsson
10) Alonso

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest: Rosberg
Bonus: 200
Giant

Pole: Hamilton
fastest lap: Hamilton
Bonus 190

1 Hamilton
2 Rosberg
3 Vettel
4 Raikkonen
5 Bottas
6 Ricciardo
7 Grosjean
8 Verstappen
9 kyvat
10 Sainz
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

PhilD wrote:
is nobody playing?

More or less everyone except you - better get a move on!
Scouse

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest: Hamilton
Bonus: 192.45

1) Hamilton
2) Rosberg
3) Vettel
4) Raikonen
5) Bottas
6) Massa
7) Ricciardo
8) Nasr
9) button
10) Alonso
PhilD

Pole - Hamilton
F/L - Vettel
Bonus - 194.5

1) Hamilton
2) Rosberg
3) Vettel
4) Ricciardo
5) Raikkonen
6) Bottas
7) Kvyat
8) Massa
9) Maldonado
10) Grosjean
Chocy Rocky

Pole-Hamilton
Fastest lap-Vettel
Bonus 190.2kph

1.Vettel
2. Kimi
3. Rosberg
4. Bottas
5. Grosjean
6. Massa
7. Ricciardo
8. Kvyat
9. Saint
10. Verstappen
Sav

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Hamilton
Bonus: 193.2

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Vettel
4. Raikkonen
5. Massa
6. Ricciardo
7. Grosjean
8. Bottas
9. Kyvat
10. Maldonado
Twelfth Monkey

Not exactly a thriller, was it?
Bob Sacamano

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Not exactly a thriller, was it?


I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with F1. It's dying on its arse at the moment. A radical shake up and re-think is needed.
Martin

It was a huge shame that Vettel started from so far down the grid, he had the pace to really push the Mercedes hard, probably enough to cause them real issues towards the end of the race.
Big Blue

This fuel coasting bollocks is doing most damage. If I saw a moto3 rider coasting to save fuel when they're bunched up with 2seconds covering the top nine I'd expect the rider to be sacked before the truck was packed! The current regs are a sop to road car technology when motorsport is supposed to be the thing driving road car technology forwards.

The Ferrari looked competitive this weekend, despite Kimi's sudden torque surfeit at the hairpin. Good to see the next Ferrari driver on the podium, too

Rosberg is defeated already IMHO. Seb can run him for second which will be where the real interest will lie. Hamilton is in a car and a field of one.
Humphrey The Pug

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Not exactly a thriller, was it?


I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with F1. It's dying on its arse at the moment. A radical shake up and re-think is needed.


Me too, seriously thinking about ditching the F1 and film package from Virgin, I only really have it to watch F1 and see the films as a bonus but rarely watch anything from the film channels; will save myself around £50 a month.
Twelfth Monkey

£600 p.a., so that's that's going to be the best part of £800 p.a. in gross income?  Eek.
Frank Bullitt

Incredibly dull, the coasting and lack of worthwhile noise when Vettel and Massa were respectively 'on it' made it feel like a procession even when there was some racing taking place.

I did wonder about getting sky sports for the F1 alone but really cannot justify it.
Twelfth Monkey

My way of looking at these things is to get a ballpark figure for 'worth'.  Let's say that you could get a return of 4% on the sum needed to pay for this, so let's say that's 3.2% net of basic rate.  You'd need the best part of £20k invested under those conditions to pay for what HTP describes.  Is it worth it?  For me, a big fat nope.  If the sport ever migrated away from Freeview/Freesat, I now know I wouldn't bother with it.
Bob Sacamano

I've sacked off the films on Virgin and F1 will be next. It looks like I'll need to update the firmware on my android box and watch on free streams.
TreVoR

Regretting signing up to the sports package now.
Humphrey The Pug

Do the BBC still show the highlights of the races that they don't run?
Twelfth Monkey

Yes.  The racing footage usually runs to an hour or more, and I don't feel it really short-changes the viewer.
Humphrey The Pug

Thanks, I think that has made up my mind, no doubt Tina will say she watches loads of films when not at work so can we keep the films.

I don't even watch any of the mid week stuff or F1 show; rarely watch the build up too, so to pay £50 a month to only watch maybe one race; as I can catch some races on the BBC for free, is a bit silly really.
TreVoR

I've just gone online and cancelled it.
PhilD

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
My way of looking at these things is to get a ballpark figure for 'worth'.  Let's say that you could get a return of 4% on the sum needed to pay for this, so let's say that's 3.2% net of basic rate.  You'd need the best part of £20k invested under those conditions to pay for what HTP describes.  Is it worth it?  For me, a big fat nope.  If the sport ever migrated away from Freeview/Freesat, I now know I wouldn't bother with it.


that is quite an unusual way of looking at it! (I think, not sure I really follow   )
Twelfth Monkey

It's what would be termed a capitalised value, I guess.  If you'd retired and were funding it from your savings or pension, that's how much would have to be allocated to it.  I plan to stop working somewhere between ten and fifteen years from now, and this is how (I think) you have to start thinking!
PhilD

It's a pastime so my process is a bit more straight forward...

1 - Do I want it?
2 - Can I afford it?

Humphrey The Pug

PhilD wrote:
It's a pastime so my process is a bit more straight forward...

1 - Do I want it?
2 - Can I afford it?



That's more like it.
Martin

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
PhilD wrote:
It's a pastime so my process is a bit more straight forward...

1 - Do I want it?
2 - Can I afford it?



That's more like it.


Spot on!  I don't pay extra for F1 on SKY, so there's nothing to be saved by cancelling it.   I did watch the BBC highlights show for Monaco as we were away for the weekend and shortening the race isn't a problem at all, I'd prefer it.  Having to watch EJ without the facility to fast forward is the biggest issue!

I can't say that I'm really enjoying the races this year, but I'm a huge F1 fan, so it would have to get quite a bit worse for me to switch off.

I agree with BB, Rosberg is well and truly beaten again this year.  When Rosberg was talking with his engineer about challenging Hamilton at the end, I said that he had no idea how quickly Hamilton could go if he wanted to and it would be great if he pushed and Hamilton easily opened a bigger gap, which is exactly what happened!
Humphrey The Pug

I've just binned Sports and Movies online, saving £43 per month.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Big Blue wrote:

Rosberg is defeated already IMHO. Seb can run him for second which will be where the real interest will lie. Hamilton is in a car and a field of one.

Rosberg has the air of (and now speaks like) someone who knows he is a number 2 to the best driver in the field, IMHO
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Martin wrote:
It was a huge shame that Vettel started from so far down the grid, he had the pace to really push the Mercedes hard, probably enough to cause them real issues towards the end of the race.

Though if he'd started third, the race would have been even more boring - his and Massa's progress through the field from low grid positions was the only thing worth watching.

Hard to know where McLaren can go from here - they appear to be falling back, if anything.
PhilD

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Martin wrote:
It was a huge shame that Vettel started from so far down the grid, he had the pace to really push the Mercedes hard, probably enough to cause them real issues towards the end of the race.

Though if he'd started third, the race would have been even more boring - his and Massa's progress through the field from low grid positions was the only thing worth watching.

Hard to know where McLaren can go from here - they appear to be falling back, if anything.


Better engine = podium finish.  I think they will get one by the end of the season.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

PhilD wrote:
Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Martin wrote:
It was a huge shame that Vettel started from so far down the grid, he had the pace to really push the Mercedes hard, probably enough to cause them real issues towards the end of the race.

Though if he'd started third, the race would have been even more boring - his and Massa's progress through the field from low grid positions was the only thing worth watching.

Hard to know where McLaren can go from here - they appear to be falling back, if anything.


Better engine = podium finish.  I think they will get one by the end of the season.

I don't think so - every time they upgrade, so does everyone else. Their only aspiration at the moment is to beat anyone other than Marussia.
Twelfth Monkey

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
PhilD wrote:
It's a pastime so my process is a bit more straight forward...

1 - Do I want it?
2 - Can I afford it?



That's more like it.


Don't get me wrong, that's how I am about much that I spend money on.  I guess I am used to pointing out to people where I think they aren't spending money wisely!  Or rather, where they have a regular commitment the true cost of which they haven't even considered.
gooner

Martin wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:
PhilD wrote:
It's a pastime so my process is a bit more straight forward...

1 - Do I want it?
2 - Can I afford it?



That's more like it.


Spot on!  I don't pay extra for F1 on SKY, so there's nothing to be saved by cancelling it.   I did watch the BBC highlights show for Monaco as we were away for the weekend and shortening the race isn't a problem at all, I'd prefer it.  Having to watch EJ without the facility to fast forward is the biggest issue!

I can't say that I'm really enjoying the races this year, but I'm a huge F1 fan, so it would have to get quite a bit worse for me to switch off.

I agree with BB, Rosberg is well and truly beaten again this year.  When Rosberg was talking with his engineer about challenging Hamilton at the end, I said that he had no idea how quickly Hamilton could go if he wanted to and it would be great if he pushed and Hamilton easily opened a bigger gap, which is exactly what happened!


For me it's justifying paying for it given that most lunchtime races occur when I'm most likely to be out on a Sunday. The winding down of BBCs coverage has meant I now rarely watch it. It's shameful that the BBC have such a poor selection of live races yet spend so much money sending Eddie Jordan and David Coulthard around the globe to make a highlights show. I really don't see why they can't work from a studio back in Britain a la Match Of The Day.
Giant

Especially as they also have the 5Live crew there too.
gooner

Giant wrote:
Especially as they also have the 5Live crew their too.


Even more wasteful then. Don't get me wrong, I understand the merits of having reporters live at the event and you couldn't do the pre race grid walk without being there (although DC seems more interested in grabbing hold of celebrities without first thinking about what to ask them!) A lot of the analysis could easily take place in a studio back here rather than spending g a fortune jetting Eddie Jordan (economy? Probably not) around the world. Of course if they did the program from Salford Eddie might be less interested in doing the show, but that wouldn't be a bad thing.
Twelfth Monkey

The fact that they must be paying Jordan more than thruppence ha'penny is the biggest waste of money in human history.
Bob Sacamano

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
The fact that they must be paying Jordan more than thruppence ha'penny is the biggest waste of money in human history.


I think they get some sort of grant under the Care in the Community scheme.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Pole Hamilton
Lap Raikkonen
Bonus 199.337 (BeN was closest with 200)

1 Hamilton
2 Rosberg
3 Bottas
4 Raikkonen
5 Vettel
6 Massa
7 Maldonado
8 Hulkenberg
9 Kvyat
10 Grosjean
11 Perez

Scores

14 - Dr H, Sav, Ben
13 - JohnC, Giant, Scouse
12 - the other ct
11 - PhilD
9 - Big Blue, Chris M
8 - Humphrey
7 - Eff One, Chocy Rocky

Deemed (7 points - not too bad!)

Tim, Gooner, Skyhook

Standings

84 - Dr H
81 - Chris M
76 - Sav
75 - Scouse
71 - JohnC, Giant
67 - Eff One
62 - the other ct
61 - Humphrey, Big Blue, BeN
57 - PhilD
53 - Tim
48 - Chocy Rocky
47 - Gooner
45 - Skyhook
Eff One

gooner wrote:
Giant wrote:
Especially as they also have the 5Live crew their too.


Even more wasteful then. Don't get me wrong, I understand the merits of having reporters live at the event and you couldn't do the pre race grid walk without being there (although DC seems more interested in grabbing hold of celebrities without first thinking about what to ask them!) A lot of the analysis could easily take place in a studio back here rather than spending g a fortune jetting Eddie Jordan (economy? Probably not) around the world. Of course if they did the program from Salford Eddie might be less interested in doing the show, but that wouldn't be a bad thing.


Agreed that EJ is a waste of a microphone, but the cost of sending the presenters and crew around the world is pocket change compared to what the BBC has to fork out for the privilege of screening the races.
PhilD

EJ is not a total waste of space. He has some level of respect in the F1 community as well as unprecedented access to people and places. What he needs are strong people around him to question and ridicule his verbal arse water, which BBC have lacked since Brundle left -the balance of power has shifted too much in EJ's direction. DC and Suzi are now doing it more but Brundle was able to keep him in his place so much better.

It's also good to see the team bosses and drivers take the piss out of him.

And one say his wig will come off and it will make our year.
Twelfth Monkey

My beef with him (well, apart from his inexplicably rampant ego and comedy clothing) is that he opens his mouth before thinking, and is rudely and loudly dogmatic with anyone who disagrees - especially galling as I reckon DC does think before opening his mouth.

If it is a syrup I'd pay good money to see it dragged from his gleaming bonce.
Humphrey The Pug

PhilD wrote:
EJ is not a total waste of space. He has some level of respect in the F1 community as well as unprecedented access to people and places. What he needs are strong people around him to question and ridicule his verbal arse water, which BBC have lacked since Brundle left -the balance of power has shifted too much in EJ's direction. DC and Suzi are now doing it more but Brundle was able to keep him in his place so much better.

It's also good to see the team bosses and drivers take the piss out of him.

And one say his wig will come off and it will make our year.


Didn't his wig come off when he was pushed into the Red Bull pool a few years ago?

I actually don't mind him, he knows a lot, he knows who to know and he tends to know what is going on before it is offiicial and he's also not scared to ask a controversial question.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Humphrey The Pug wrote:

Didn't his wig come off when he was pushed into the Red Bull pool a few years ago?

The one on his head or chest ???

Humphrey The Pug wrote:

I actually don't mind him, he knows a lot, he knows who to know and he tends to know what is going on before it is offiicial and he's also not scared to ask a controversial question.

Well, he predicted the Lewis Hamilton move to Mercedes, and he has predicted that Ross Brawn will return to F1 to head up VW/Audi's entry to the sport, so we will have to wait and see on that one
Frank Bullitt

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
My beef with him (well, apart from his inexplicably rampant ego and comedy clothing) is that he opens his mouth before thinking, and is rudely and loudly dogmatic with anyone who disagrees - especially galling as I reckon DC does think before opening his mouth.


Agreed, it's almost like he squares up to people who disagree with him.
Humphrey The Pug

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:

Didn't his wig come off when he was pushed into the Red Bull pool a few years ago?

The one on his head or chest ???

Humphrey The Pug wrote:

I actually don't mind him, he knows a lot, he knows who to know and he tends to know what is going on before it is offiicial and he's also not scared to ask a controversial question.

Well, he predicted the Lewis Hamilton move to Mercedes, and he has predicted that Ross Brawn will return to F1 to head up VW/Audi's entry to the sport, so we will have to wait and see on that one


And he said Schumacher was coming out of retirement to drive for Mercedes.
Twelfth Monkey

Maybe they should keep him in a box, with a slot in it so that he can pass notes out to inform us of these things?
BeN

Jesus! When was the last time I got the bonus question correct?! And top scored too!  
PhilD

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Maybe they should keep him in a box, with a slot in it so that he can pass notes out to inform us of these things?


best idea yet! (box has to be sound proof of course)

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