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Dr. Hfuhruhurr

F1 Game 2015 - Brazil

Usual rules - guess the top ten finishers, pole person and fastest lapper

Bonus: fastest time in Q1 (in seconds) - one point for closest

Deadline: Friday 13 November 2359 GMT
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Pole Hamilton
Lap Hamilton
Bonus 1m 23.748s

1 Hamilton
2 Rosberg
3 Vettel
4 Bottas
5 Massa
6 Raikkonen
7 Alonso
8 Nasr
9 Hulkenberg
10 Perez
Scouse

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest: Hamilton
Bonus: 1min 10 seconds

1) Hamilton
2) Rosberg
3) Vettel
4) Raikonen
5) Bottas
6) Massa
7) Ricciardo
8) Nasr
9) button
10) Alonso
Big Blue

I haven't watch the last 2 races as MotoGP has dominated my motorsport interest.

What's going on in F1? Is Colin Chapman still the man?

Pole: Rosberg
F/L: Rosberg
Bonus: 1.24.5

1. Rosberg (as Hamilton can't be arsed)
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
4. Bottas
5. Kimi
6. Massa
7. Ricciardo
8. Kvyat
9. Verstappen
10. Alonso
Scouse

umm, has the track changed since last year? Only the qualifying lap last year was 1.10.023. The cars can't be 10 secs a lap slower surely?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Big Blue wrote:
I haven't watch the last 2 races as MotoGP has dominated my motorsport interest.

What's going on in F1? Is Colin Chapman still the man?
(snip)

1. Rosberg (as Hamilton can't be arsed)
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton

The Hamster is feeling under the weather, apparently.  Had a minor car accident in Monaco and flew out to South America a day later than intended on medical advice
Sav

Scouse wrote:
umm, has the track changed since last year? Only the qualifying lap last year was 1.10.023. The cars can't be 10 secs a lap slower surely?


This is the impact of these evil, boring V6 engines, Pirelli tyres which barley have any grip, and equivalent downforce of a Fiat Panda.















PhilD

Sav wrote:
Scouse wrote:
umm, has the track changed since last year? Only the qualifying lap last year was 1.10.023. The cars can't be 10 secs a lap slower surely?


This is the impact of these evil, boring V6 engines, Pirelli tyres which barley have any grip, and equivalent downforce of a Fiat Panda.



or BB and the Doc misread it as "what will Mclaren's fastest lap be".
Big Blue

It's the Q1 time not the outright time. It'll be set on hard tyres by a bored Nico Rosberg between having his hair blow dried and his foundation perfected.
JohnC

Is Hamilton going to be in a fit state to win this weekend having been out partying so much that he:

a) fell asleep at the wheel, or
b) was too drunk to be driving.

He isn't as focused anymore, that's for sure.

Nice to see that Red Bull won't kill off F1 by leaving and perhaps Honda and Renault can make the changes necessary to make their powerplants competitive.

One thing I read on the BBC website which intrigued me was that "the powers that be" are looking into a cheaper alternative power plant that the smaller teams can use - is this taking us back to the days when we had Cosworth powered cars and turbo cars on the same grid - maybe Renault can wheel out their old N/A engine for the smaller teams. However thanks to Ferrari's stubbornness the sport isn't going to move forward much or get cheaper in the near future.
PhilD

JohnC wrote:
Is Hamilton going to be in a fit state to win this weekend having been out partying so much that he:

a) fell asleep at the wheel, or
b) was too drunk to be driving.

.


I thought he was teetotal?
JohnC

PhilD wrote:
JohnC wrote:
Is Hamilton going to be in a fit state to win this weekend having been out partying so much that he:

a) fell asleep at the wheel, or
b) was too drunk to be driving.

.


I thought he was teetotal?


Quite possibly he is and I guess the physical regime might make that preferable as well. However when you only know he has been partying too hard, there aren't many other options or viable reasons. I'll just assume he fell asleep then!

EDIT: Ok he could also have been on medication for his fever, which messed with his body a bit.
PhilD

Those Zondas are a bit dull to drive, no wonder he nodded off...
Eff One

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Rosberg
Bonus: 1.21.668

1. Rosberg
2. Vettel
3. Raikkonen
4. Bottas
5. Massa
6. Kvyat
7. Ricciardo
8. Perez
9. Hulkenberg
10. Sainz
the other ct

Pole Hamilton
Lap Rosberg
Bonus 1m 11.374s

1 Rosberg
2 Hamilton
3 Vettel
4 Massa
5 Bottas
6 Hulkenberg
7 Maldonado
8 Verstappen
9 Perez
10 Ricciardo
JohnC

Pole Hamilton
Lap Hamilton
Bonus 1m 11.048s

1 Hamilton
2 Rosberg
3 Vettel
4 Bottas
5 Ricciardo
6 Raikkonen
7 Massa
8 Grosjean
9 Kvyatt
10 Verstappen
Humphrey The Pug

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus: 1:12.03

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Vettel
4. Raikkonen
5. Massa
6. Bottas
7. Perez
8. Ricciardo
9. Verstappen
10. Button
PhilD

Pole - Hamilton
F/L - Hamilton
Bonus - 1m 12.1

1) Hamilton
2) Rosberg
3) Vettel
4) Ricciardo
5) Raikkonen
6) Bottas
7) Kvyat
8) Massa
9) Maldonado
10) Grosjean
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Pole Hamilton
F.lap Rosberg
Bonus 1.11.8

1 Rosberg
2 Hamilton
3 Bottas
4 Massa
5 Vettel
6 Ricciardo
7 Grosjean
8 Hulkenberg
9 Maldonado
10 Raikkonen
Sav

Pole: Rosberg
Fastest lap: Hamilton
Bonus: 1:25.612

1. Rosberg
2. Hamilton
3. Vettel
4. Ricciardo
5. Raikkonen
6. Kyvat
7. Massa
8. Verstappen
9. Bottas
10. Perez
BeN

Pole: Rosberg
Fastest: Rosberg
Bonus: Pass (I'm not gonna win the championship anyway so meh.   )

1) Rosberg (cos Da Ham probably can't be bothered any more)
2) Vettel
3) Hamilton
4) Raikkonen
5) Massa
6) Bottas
7) Hulkenberg
8) Kyvat
9) Ricciardo
10) Maldonado
Sav

Terrible TV director, as often is the case in Brazil. Key overtakes were missed and exciting side-by-side battles were ignored for cars merely following each other around.

Perhaps if Verstappen wasn't in the Grand Prix it would have been extremely dull, but thank goodness he drives in F1. Watching him in European F3 last year made me wonder if he could limit his slight clumsiness but retain his fantastic racecraft, and he's certainly done that.

It puts a question mark over GP2 and even GP3 when someone who's come from a supposedly inferior series and adapted to F1 so seamlessly. GP2 and GP3 haven't produced many clear stand-outs in recent years, particularly GP2.
Bob Sacamano

That's it for GP for me. I'm out.
Big Blue

First race I've watched in three.

Utter shit. After the frenetic, albeit controversial, climax to the MotoGP season F1 has died on its Arse on track. The off-track intrigue is also lacking as it seems to be all about RBR whinging and Ferrari deciding the marketability of Kimi is far more important than his performance against his team mate.

My friend that watches F1 once or twice a season made the most obvious comment as the SkyF1 team were harping on about the mooted cheap engine: they need to take the rule book and reduce it by two thirds so less money is spent engineering ways to circumvent them.
Frank Bullitt

Watching the Wales Rally GB, the difference is stark.  F1 sucks and I agreed without Verstappen it would be like watching turf-out time in the car park at the NIA.
Humphrey The Pug

Just finished watching it, I struggled to stay awake; fuck me it was boring.
Martin

Yep, boring race.  I spent most of it researching holidays, Lindsay had to nudge me when it was the last lap....
Scouse

I fell asleep
BeN

Thank God I didn't watch that one.
Sav

The racing was decent in the midfield. The battles between the Lotus’, the Sauber’s, Perez and Vestappen was quality racing and enjoyable to watch. People complain about the Pirelli tyres, but you wouldn’t get that midfield overtaking without some people’s tyres going off, thus creating a sufficient speed differential to the cars behind. For some it was a case of chassis and aerodynamics rather than engine, perfect case in point would be Verstappen. On the flip side, Perez powertrain had an advantageous power unit to keep people behind in sectors 1 and 3, but would struggle in the twistier sector 2. I enjoyed watching those differences, but it was the degrading tyres that allowed the passing to occur, of course along with DRS.

On the subject of DRS, it was too effective on the front stretch. It’s sad to be appreciative of F1 cars merely being side-by-side, that should be the norm. However, because of the sheer overspeed of the DRS, some people under attack just gave up as they hit the brakes for turn 1. That wasn’t nice to see, I want to see two drivers on the limit battling into the corner. It is odd that the DRS zone starts so far back on the straight. Ideally, the first DRS zone at Interlagos should start sooner but also end sooner, that would leave it for the driver behind to get the pass completed on the brakes without this massive overspeed at present just before braking. The DRS zone at Barcelona along the pit straight is another irritant.
Sav

I think F1 has two problems at present. Firstly, and rather obviously, there just isn’t the competition up front to make predicting the top two anything over than utterly predictable. In previous years it was unknown who would win between Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull and Ferrari. The regulations introduced in 2014 were so drastically different; finding a carryover part from 2013 was difficult. Braking systems, gearboxes, engines, steering wheels, recovery systems, aerodynamics – all was new. Inevitably whoever prepared best for these regulations was going to reign supreme, and such complexity in the regulations was going to cause a significant field spread once again, and if F1 has ever about having a massive budget to succeed, the 2014 rules exacerbated that.

I think F1 was right to switch to turbocharged V6’s; otherwise it would have looked technically obsolete in the face of downsized turbocharged units used in passenger vehicles. However, I question the sheer complexity in the relationship between the engine, the two motor generators and the recovery process itself. I think that could have been simplified, perhaps how KERS was developed for the old V8’s. I’m glad that engine development is now a factor, because pre-2014 F1 was becoming too much of a spec championship with how little difference there was in the engines.

At the same time, F1 shouldn’t be a rival to WEC in terms of technical advancements. If WEC wants open engine configurations, more megajoule capacity, and different aerodynamics – fine. F1 shouldn’t be a championship ideally tailored to the needs of mass car manufacturers; otherwise the teams that participate in F1 to solely race won’t be there - the privateers that give the sport heritage and a fan base. Car manufacturers come and go, as F1 found itself as the recession hit. I think LMP1 makes a mistake by almost solely relying on car manufacturers to make up entries, but that’s a different argument…

Secondly, the issue of following another car hasn’t gone away. I actually thought drivers could follow each other to a greater extent last year, the turbocharged engines made the cars looser on exit, and the less downforce made them look edgier to drive as people were getting used to the regulations. Unfortunately, these higher noses have once again made it very difficult to follow, and downforce has increased through natural development. Contrary to what people like Mark Webber say, more downforce and lower laptimes shouldn’t be the priority – as seems to be the plan for 2017. The fan at home or the spectator in the stands can’t tell if a car is doing 150 or 165 mph during a corner, what they can notice is a great battle between great drivers.

With less downforce the cars would still be fast, they won’t turn into a bunch of Ford Fiesta’s overnight. However, seeing the driver work at the wheel and able to follow effectively will once again excite fans. I don’t think you would need degrading tyres if following another car was easier. But in the current situation, the dodgy tyres are effective at creating a significant enough speed differential between cars.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Pole Rosberg
Lap Hamilton
Bonus 1m 11.682s (Chris M was closest ... again!)

1 Rosberg
2 Hamilton
3 Vettel
4 Raikkonen
5 Bottas
6 Hulkenberg
7 Kvyat
8 Grosjean
9 Verstappen
10 Maldonado
11 Ricciardo

Scores

17 - the other ct
14 - Sav
13 - Humphrey
12 - PhilD
11 - Big Blue, JohnC
9 - Scouse, Chris M
7 - Dr H, Eff One

Deemed (7 points)

Ben (sorry, too late), Giant, Tim, Chocy Rocky, Gooner, Skyhook

Standings

184 - Chris M
177 - Scouse
176 - Sav
165 - Dr H, JohnC
153 - Eff One
151 - Humphrey, the other ct
144 - Big Blue
142 - BeN
139 - PhilD
115 - Giant
97 - Tim
92 - Chocy Rocky
91 - Gooner
89 - Skyhook
BeN

Bummer. Well, not like it's going to make much of a difference anyway.

For the record, how much would I have gotten?
JohnC

BeN wrote:
Bummer. Well, not like it's going to make much of a difference anyway.

For the record, how much would I have gotten?


7 is a pretty good haul for the deemed score. I chose all mine in Mexico and only got 2 points!! I think my championship hopes died at the same time.

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