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Dr. Hfuhruhurr

F1 Game 2014 - Japan

Who will finish in the top ten places?
Who will take pole?
Who will set fastest lap?
What will be the winner's total race time?

Deadline: Friday 3 October 2359 GMT
BeN

Will be away again (this time in Paris), so here we go:

1) Hamilton
2) Rosberg
3) Alonso
4) Vettel
5) Ricciardo
6) Raikkonen
7) Button
8) Massa
9) Bottas
10) Grosjean

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest: Hamilton
Bonus: Er, pass.
JohnC

I am away playing golf all day on 3rd Oct so I will get this in now in case I forget.

Pole: Hamilton
FL: Hamilton
Bonus: 1hr 29mins 18secs

1-Hamilton
2 -Rosberg
3-Ricciardo
4-Alonso
5-Vettel
6-Button
7-Bottas
8-Raikkonen
9-Massa
10-Hulkenberg
Eff One

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus: 1:29:05

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Ricciardo
4. Alonso
5. Vettel
6. Raikkonen
7. Bottas
8. Button
9. Massa
10. Kvyat
Big TC

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus: 1hr 38min 13.2 seconds (bit of a wet race?)

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Bottas
4. Ricciardo
5. Vettel
6. Alonso
7. Massa
8. Raikkonen
9. Button
10. Magnussen
Scouse

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus: 1:41:05

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Ricciardo
4. Alonso
5. Vettel
6. Button
7. Bottas
8. Raikonen
9. Massa
10. Magnusson
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Pole/lap Hamiltpm
Npnus 1h 31m 01.518s

1 Hamilton
2 Roswberg
3 Vettel
4 Ricciardo
5 Alonso
6 Raikkonen
7 Button
8 Magnussehn
9 Bottas
10 Massa
Big Blue

Pole: Rosberg
Lap: Hamilton
Bonus 2hrs (rain!)

1 Rosberg
2 Hamilton
3 Button
4 Alonso
5 Raikkonen
6 Ricciardo
7 Magnuson
8 Bottas
9 Vettel
10 Kvyat
Humphrey The Pug

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus1:31.05

1. Hamilton
2. Ricciardo
3. Vettel
4. Rosberg
5. Alonso
6. Kimi
7. Bottas
8. Kyvat
9. Perez
10. Massa
Skyhook

Pole: Rosberg      
Fastest lap: Hamilton  
Bonus: 1 hour 46 minutes

1st: Hamilton     
2nd: Rosberg       
3rd: Ricciardo       
4th: Bottas     
5th: Alonso       
6th: Vettel      
7th: Massa       
8th: Raikkonen       
9th: Button  
10th: Perez
Tim

Pole: Rosberg
F/L: Ricciardo
Bonus1:31.51

1. Rosberg
2. Ricciardo
3. Vettel
4. Alonso
5. Bottas
6. Kimi
7. Hamilton
8. Magnusson
9. Kvyat
10. Button
Mrs Skyhook

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus: 4 hours (see FIA regs 5.3 & 41.4)

1. Hamilton
2. Ricciardo
3. Rosberg
4. Alonso
5. Bottas
6. Vettel
7. Button
8. Raikkonen
9. Massa
10. Magnusson
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Pole: Hamilton
F/Lap: Hamilton
Bonus: 1 hr 46:15

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Bottas
4. Ricciardo
5. Alonso
6. Button
7. Vettel
8. Massa
9. Raikkonen
10. Magnussen
gooner

Pole: Hamilton
FL Rosberg
Bonus: 1hr 36m

1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Riciardo
4. Massa
5. Alonso
6. Vettel
7. Button
8. Raikkonen
9. Rosberg
10. Magnussen.
PhilD

Pole: Ham
FL: Ham
Bonus: 1hr 41m

1-Hamilton
2 -Rosberg
3-Vettel
4-Riccardo
5-Alonso
6-Perez
7-Kimi
8-Bottas
9-Magnussen
10-Hulkenberg
the other ct

Pole: Hamilton
FL: Hamilton
Bonus: 1hr

1 Hamilton
2 Rosberg
3 Vettel
4 Bottas
5 Hulkenberg
6 Raikkonen
7 Button
8 Vergne
9 Magnussen  
10 Kvyat
Sav

Pole: Rosberg
Fastest lap: Hamilton
Bonus: 1 hour, 33 mins, 54 seconds

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Vettel
4. Bottas
5. Ricciardo
6. Alonso
7. Massa
8. Button
9. Raikkonen
10. Vergne
DetmoldDick

Lewis crash in FP3 was a little strange from the onboard. He turned into the corner but the wheels seemed to stay pointing straight ahaead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8G1jRzHz9E
Scouse

Thats kind of worrying at one of the fastest circuits of the year
Giant

This is only the second race of the season I've watched in full. 7am races fit into my Sundays perfectly. Having it on first thing in the morning before the day really starts suits so much better than disrupting the middle of the day for two hours.

Shame it was stopped, not that I think the result was affected
BeN

I missed the Bianchi incident at the end. Hope he's alright.
gooner

I missed it too, I just thought it odd when the screen said Bianci when they were recovering Sutil's car. He's having surgery apparently so it was clearly quite a bad accident. Hope he'll be ok but it does make you wonder whether the safety car should have come out sooner or the tractor should ave waited until the safety car was out before trying to recover Sutil's car.
Giant

As my post above hopefully implies, rather than looking like a cold hearted sod, I missed it too, had turned the commentary down so was watching pictures only, had assumed it was all a precaution over Sutil!
Frank Bullitt

I missed it too, hopefully Bianchi makes a full recovery, he's had surgery this morning.
PhilD

Pretty much every time I see a crane or tractor recovering a car the thought crosses my mind that if someone else crashes in the same place then it won't be pretty. The idea of big lumps of metal at drivers head height sends a shiver down my spine. Hope he pulls through.
Martin

The safety car should have been sent out as soon as Sutil crashed and they put the tractor into the danger zone.  

I heard Massa moaning about the dangerous conditions and saying the safety car should have been out 5 laps earlier, but they were all still running on intermediate tyres, surely if it was that bad he should have gone onto the full wets?
Humphrey The Pug

Martin wrote:
The safety car should have been sent out as soon as Sutil crashed and they put the tractor into the danger zone.  

I heard Massa moaning about the dangerous conditions and saying the safety car should have been out 5 laps earlier, but they were all still running on intermediate tyres, surely if it was that bad he should have gone onto the full wets?


Massa is shit in the wet and he does tend to moan a bit, there was no need for a safety car at that point.
Big Blue

Humphrey The Pug wrote:

Massa is shit


FYP
PhilD

Big Blue wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:

Massa is shit


FYP


Massa is in real trouble now his pit can't tell him how to drive.
Humphrey The Pug

Has anyone seen the fan footage of the Jules Bianchi crash, it is a wonder he is still alive; it is truly shocking and it looks as though he was going far too fast given the yellow flags.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

PhilD wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:

Massa is shit


FYP


Massa is in real trouble now his pit can't tell him how to drive.

"Felipe, everyone is faster than you"
gooner

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Has anyone seen the fan footage of the Jules Bianchi crash, it is a wonder he is still alive; it is truly shocking and it looks as though he was going far too fast given the yellow flags.


I think it's being suggested that conditions on that part of the track had deteriorated to the point that he may not have seen the flags. I know some teams have lights on the steering wheel which show what flags are being shown but whether they are present on the lower teams like Marrusia, I don't know.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Also because of the restart, it was getting dark by that time.
Giant

BBC Sports news feed had an article on his crash last night saying it was an terrible accumulation of five or six unusual factors (including the fading light) that added up to his accident. Awful though it is, and like Phil above the idea of a car hitting the recovery vehicles (which are all basically heavy plant machinery) has occured to me many times over the years, I hope there isn't an over reaction like a ban on wet racing that was being bandied about on twitter last night. There must surely be safer ways of recovering crashed/broken down vehicles than the current antiquated methods that are less risky for drivers and stewards.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

I would have thought an access road behind the barrier so the crane can recover the car without being a danger to any other car that goes off in the same place
Giant

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
I would have thought an access road behind the barrier so the crane can recover the car without being a danger to any other car that goes off in the same place

Problem solved, offer your services to Herman Tilke and Bernie as a track safety consultant, for a small fee of course!
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

It wouldn't be a small fee
Giant

A small fee in Bernie's world would see me right for the rest of my days!
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Remember when a million pounds was called a Bernie, after his donation to the Labour party?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Giant wrote:

Awful though it is, and like Phil above the idea of a car hitting the recovery vehicles (which are all basically heavy plant machinery) has occured to me many times over the years

Dreadful accident and I hope that Jules recovers.
Thing is, that at a scene like Sutil's crash, double waved yellows are in force so the drivers should have slowed down sufficiently such that they won't lose it and exit the track at high speed.  It's very unfortunate to aquaplane off the track and into the recovery of another car that went off in the same place.

Puts the decision at Silverstone to stop the race and replace the barrier that Kimi damaged into perspective, though
Sav

gooner wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Has anyone seen the fan footage of the Jules Bianchi crash, it is a wonder he is still alive; it is truly shocking and it looks as though he was going far too fast given the yellow flags.


I know some teams have lights on the steering wheel which show what flags are being shown but whether they are present on the lower teams like Marrusia, I don't know.


Flag lights on the steering wheel have been mandatory on all cars for a few years now. Whether a team uses a McLaren steering wheel or their own custom wheel is up to them, but functions like the flag lights are mandatory.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

What you have to remember is that slower under yellow flags is still pretty fast by anything other than F1 car standards. When the SC is out, the driver is pushing it to the limit while the cars behind are complaining at how slowly he's going.
PhilD

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
It's very unfortunate to aquaplane off the track and into the recovery of another car that went off in the same place.



Is it? I'd say that in certain conditions it's pretty likely that two cars will go off the track in the same place.
Big Blue

There was a green flag at the post by the crash at the time Bianchi crashed. If he had a green light on his dash he would have assumed that an "off" would not result in him going side on into a fucking big yellow tractor. The fan footage is pretty grim watching; more so given the presence of the green flag being waved.
Humphrey The Pug

Big Blue wrote:
There was a green flag at the post by the crash at the time Bianchi crashed. If he had a green light on his dash he would have assumed that an "off" would not result in him going side on into a fucking big yellow tractor. The fan footage is pretty grim watching; more so given the presence of the green flag being waved.


This green flag is being argued elsewhere, apparently; if I understand correctly, the green flag is being waved at the marshal post beyond the crash, waved yellows were being waved up to that point, so at the point of the green flag and beyond the track is clear.

So even though there is a green flag and it can be seen by the drivers, the green flag conditions don't start until the exact point that the flag is being waved, not before, so therefore the green flag is correct.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Having just seen the video footage, that is truly horrific - he goes under the back of the tractor as it's reversing with Sutil's car strapped to it - the force makes the tractor jump into the air.  No wonder the roll bar was ripped off the Marussia and he suffered head injuries.  A couple of seconds earlier and he'd have missed it altogether. Such is fate :-(
simonp

Unbelievable that wasn't a fatality. Spookily similar to the Maria de Villota crash and the same team, too...
gooner

Almost as scary as a few years back when Alonso was inches from being decapitated by Grosjean in the first corner (I think at Spa), that was a close one too and just shows how close to catastrophe Motorsport can get at times.
Parm

It's been announced that he suffered a diffuse axonal injury, which is essentially wide spread brain trauma/damage.

I've seen the video footage that is doing the rounds too. It was a horrific accident.
Eff One

I'm just back from 9 days off-grid with no internet, phone or TV. Found out about Bianchi while belatedly checking my email in a wifi-enabled cafe in the south of Spain on Wednesday. I thought he had been killed to begin with - all I had was an email subject line which read 'Japanese Grand Prix overshadowed by Jules Bianchi's..."

A proper bone-chilling moment despite the 27C heat.

I haven't watched the race and can't muster much enthusiasm for this weekend's GP in Sochi either. Respect to the Marussia team for continuing under such awful circumstances.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Sorry for delay, points and so on ...

Pole Rosberg
Lap Hamilton
Bonus 1h 51m 43.021s (Chris M closest with 1h 46m 15s)

1 Hamilton
2 Rosberg
3 Vettel
4 Ricciardo
5 Button
6 Bottas
7 Massa
8 Hulkenberg
9 Vergne
10 Perez
11 Kvyat

Scores

16 - Sav
15 - Skyhook
13 - Big TC, Dr H, PhilD, Chris M
12 - the other ct
10 - BeN, JohnC, Eff One, Scouse
9 - Humphrey
6 - Tim, Mrs Skyhook
5 - Big Blue
4 - Gooner

Deemed (4 points)

Eddie, Chocy, Giant

Standings

151 - Sav
143 - Skyhook, the other ct, Chris M
141 - Big TC
129 - Mrs Skyhook
128 - PhilD
126 - JohnC
114 - Humphrey
113 - Dr H
111 - Eff One
106 - Tim
105 - Scouse
100 - BeN
92 - Big Blue
86 - Gooner
75 - Nice Guy Eddie
74 - Chocy Rocky
56 - Giant

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