Turbonutter
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EVO 133Interesting snippet in there about road legaltrack tyres being phased out in a couple of years?
Anyone else run 888s, Michelin Sport Cups etc on their road car?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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Yes, P Zero Corsa.
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"him"
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Which ones do you have?
Or these?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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Front:
Rear:
| Quote: | The P Zero Corsa is not recommended for driving on extremely wet roads where there is the risk of hydroplaning. This is especially true of shaved or worn tires. Drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds in these conditions.
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Matt
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There's P-Zero 'Yellows' on the Jag. Grip like buggery.
Cup tyres shouldn't be banned in an ideal world, but then many people would end up stacking their car if they aren't abated before they become the thing to have on a performance car.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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So are they being banned because of their wet performance? Shame really, you just to engage brain and slow down when it's wet, which you should do anyway.
They might do better to ban four-wheel drive, as it encourages people to think they're invincible, whatever the weather ...
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Turbonutter
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | So are they being banned because of their wet performance? Shame really, you just to engage brain and slow down when it's wet, which you should do anyway.
They might do better to ban four-wheel drive, as it encourages people to think they're invincible, whatever the weather ...
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It said that officialdom didn't like the idea that these sort of tyres compromised wet grip at the expense of much improved dry grip...............although if you extrapolate that argument all tyres compromise to some extent even if it is normal grip versus tyre wear properties.
Might be just a "story" though like many of these mag scoops
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DarthBalls
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It would be interesting to see how the wet weather grip/performance of 'road legal track tyres' compares to that of cheap tyres (LingLongs and the like) and low rolling resistance 'eco' tyres.
My brother says that they LingLongs (!) in his Grande Espace have not grip in the wet. Should they also be banned?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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| DarthBalls wrote: | | My brother says that they LingLongs (!) in his Grande Espace have not grip in the wet. Should they also be banned? |
Undoubtedly, if Autocar's recent budget tyre test was anything to go by.
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Turbonutter
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | | DarthBalls wrote: | | My brother says that they LingLongs (!) in his Grande Espace have not grip in the wet. Should they also be banned? |
Undoubtedly, if Autocar's recent budget tyre test was anything to go by. |
I think it was hoped that this would be one of the 'side effects' of the legislation, certainly from the tyre company spokesman interviewed i.e. poor performing tyres would disappear as well. Maybe there would be a minimum acceptable performance....
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ALF
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| Turbonutter wrote: |
I think it was hoped that this would be one of the 'side effects' of the legislation, certainly from the tyre company spokesman interviewed i.e. poor performing tyres would disappear as well. Maybe there would be a minimum acceptable performance.... |
This is how I read it, in which case the legislation would be a very good thing overall. Budget tyres have dreadful wet-weather grip and most people do just buy on price. If the EU are going to insist on premium-quality grip levels then that is a rare step in the right direction for safety!
For cars like GT3's, I'm sure the makers will just come out with full-tread but soft compound tyres like the Avon CR500's I used to use - which were superb in the wet and dry.
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TimR
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | | DarthBalls wrote: | | My brother says that they LingLongs (!) in his Grande Espace have not grip in the wet. Should they also be banned? |
Undoubtedly, if Autocar's recent budget tyre test was anything to go by. |
I'd add Pirelli P6000s to the list as well.
Sadly, unlike the trackday tyres, they don't wear out very quickly.
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