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Guitar Zero

Everyone thinks Autotrader's new site smokes bone

http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2009/...site/comment-page-3/#comment-5231
Big Blue

I agree with every comment. I thought the site had failed when I visited it the other day!

What gets me is the shite the senior idiots take off of the instigators of this crap. Look at the strongest brands and they keep their public face: imagine if Coca Cola started using a different shaped glass bottle!

This Autotrader thing is clearly an issue of someone wanting a new toy and fooling the budget holders into the benefits of its virtues when they clearly didn't understand IT at all.

They will be sacked next week
Guitar Zero

Functionally aside, the front page and search section looks wank.

Total fail.
Gooner

Looks like the sort of website design I'd expect for cbeebies. Seems to work ok though. We'll probably get used to it in time.
PG

On Microsoft IE it was impossible to use. I've just switched to Google Chrome and it runs a whole lot quicker, but the format is horrible.
DaveGibson

When I looked recently it didn't let me refine my search after the first set of criteria so I was stuck with hundreds of cars. I never had a problem before.
woof woof

I noticed this earlier in the week.

I can't say that I like it, the design doesn't seem to make sense and options seem to be crammed in in different sized fonts. I liked it better before the last update before this one.

It's worked for me though, no hanging.
Martin

I've not had any problems with it, but agree that it looks crap and the old version was better / easier to use.
gonnabuildabuggy

PG wrote:
On Microsoft IE it was impossible to use. I've just switched to Google Chrome and it runs a whole lot quicker, but the format is horrible.


This kind of stuff ****s me off. Designers all sit around running fast machines with latest flash versions and hey presty it looks good/runs great.....launches but Mr. McNulty using dialup and IE2 can't see a thing - no-one in head office was even aware of such issues.

The brand I run on a contract basis has just had new "international" site foisted on us by Germany - I had to get IT to upgrade to latest version of flash to be able to see it.....despite emails at product spec time warning of such problems.

Why fix somethings that's not broke? Why do the people at the top not get to grips with understanding their companies no.1 way of interacting with customers?
Mark

'Raja' should not be allowed anywhere near a computer/communication device.
franki68

It has driven me nuts,it is ugly and when used on my 'download machine' (a very old pc I have breathed ne wlife into with  linux) ..it hangs constantly ,
Roadrunner

Martin wrote:
I've not had any problems with it, but agree that it looks crap and the old version was better / easier to use.


+1.

Reduce the zoom on your screen to about 90% and it looks a lot better.
PG

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
This kind of stuff ****s me off. Designers all sit around running fast machines with latest flash versions and hey presty it looks good/runs great.....launches but Mr. McNulty using dialup and IE2 can't see a thing - no-one in head office was even aware of such issues........

.....Why fix somethings that's not broke? Why do the people at the top not get to grips with understanding their companies no.1 way of interacting with customers?


This totally pisses me off as well. After designing all software (a) send somebody to test it in the shittiest, slowest enviroment you can find and (b) get somebody who has never used it before to see just how intuitive (or usually not intuitive) it has become. Then decide whether to launch it.

And it isn't just the internet and customer facing stuff where this happens. I had real grief from our US head office that we refused to use a new piece of internal reporting software in Europe. We claimed it was so slow as to be unusable. We were accused of being difficult. It took a visitor from head office to complain that his machine was "slow" for them to realise that once you went more than 6 feet from the server the system was complete shyte.
BeN

Seems like Autocar part 2.
simonp

The site works fine for me, but I do agree that it's not as good as the old one. Like woofy I don't see why the drop down selection boxes at the top have to be different sizes, as if some criteria are more important than others?
DaveGibson

This sort of thing is very difficult. When I was at work, in the nineties, we only had to make sure that stuff worked with a couple of versions of IE and Netscape. Now there are all the legacy versions of the various browsers and each new version has to include code to make sure that it, too, can handle any legacy applications.

There's an interesting comment in the new edition of PCPro magazine about the Linux operating system. When it started, 15 years ago, it contained about 176K lines of code. The latest version has 11.6 million. It's all to do with continuing to support old applications, while at the same time adding the new features demanded by the end user. Interestingly, Apple's Snow Leopard has deliberately omitted support for Power-PC based machines to keep its size down.
Max Headroom

It looks like Raja the halfwit  - close relation to WebTeamAutocar - has been doing some serious wool pulling. What were the 'trader bosses thinking? I have bought and sold many cars via the old autotrader website which while not perfect was certainly good enough for its purpose most of the time.

Yet another example of the triumph of stupidity over common sense. I assume the owners of autotrader failed to solve the sentence puzzle 'money burn to'

I cannot express how bloody annoying this is.
Big Blue

DaveGibson wrote:
.......while at the same time adding the new features demanded by the end user....


.....er.... who are these demanding end users? I use Excel, Word, t'internet, Access, Outlook exactly the same as I did when I actually had to work with them some 15 years ago. The only demands are those for employment by those that keep on redeveloping and profit by those that flog it on. And a few people that actually have an interest in this sort of thing and who would adapt the stuff they had if people didn't keep selling them new stuff anyway
DaveGibson

Big Blue wrote:
DaveGibson wrote:
.......while at the same time adding the new features demanded by the end user....


.....er.... who are these demanding end users? .........

My comment was based on the words of Linux originator Linus Torvalds. It was he who indicated that end-user demands were a factor.
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