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Stuntman

Elder brother and younger brother

Younger brother is now 8 days, 590 miles old and fairly grimy.  Elder brother is nearly 10 years and 88,000 miles old.  

Driving the elder brother after an extended spell in the younger brother reveals that the brake pedal is a lot softer, the gearchange throw is much longer (it almost feels loose and disconnected!), and the steering is marginally better (younger brother's steering feel has improved noticeably since day 1, I am reasonably impressed, which is high praise).

Styling-wise, it's curvy versus chiselled.  The nose of the younger car is comically lower than the nose of the elder car.  The elder car's interior is made to feel its age in the presence of the younger car, but it's not without its charm.

After a week, my thoughts are that if I sold the older car during the course of this year, I probably wouldn't mourn that decision.  The fact I can even begin to countenance it is a huge compliment to the newer car.  I'm seriously impressed with it.







JohnC

I hate to say it but with a M3 as well, has older brother not earned the right to be given a new home?

Side by side the GT4 really does look a lot more modern.
Stuntman

You're probably right John.  With the new job (starting on Weds!) it's likely to be quite a year for emotional and financial decisions.

We'll see!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Another thing to consider is that cars don't seem to like being used infrequently.  If you don't use them all in rotation, you may find that they don't stay as pristine as you'd hoped for.  Tough decisions.......
Andy C

What car can make a Cayman S look a bit, well, feeble ?!

A GT4, that is what
Bryan M

Which car are you going to sacrifice to the commute and car park dings? It may make sense to keep big bro for that?
Stuntman

The BMW is taking the strain in Jan and Feb.  Big bro will do it in March.
gooner

I must say my heart really bleeds for the tough decision you have to make  

Personally, in your shoes I'd look to move on the Cayman S. It's at that age where big bills can start to come along regardless of how well you've looked after it. They've held their values well so it could be time to cash in. Quite an emotive decision but you've also got a lot of cross country miles to do fro your new job whilst you're still based in Gloucester so maybe time to get something more economical for the commute.
Stuntman

Thanks chaps, all thoughts appreciated.

gooner - the car's already thrown me plenty of bills in its life thus far, I have replaced plenty of parts on it since it was about five.  Comes with the territory I suspect.  Something economical would indeed be the sensible thing to do, but I'm saving money in other areas of life so I can run these mad cars
Blarno

What you need to deal with the commute is a filthy, high mileage diesel Mondeo. Preferrably an estate in a shocking blend of dog cock pink and brown. Parking dings are like water off a duck's back.

I'm willing to fall on my sword and do a swap.

Frank Bullitt

There's a purity in the S that I find utterly bewitching, is drive it as much as I could!

Intoxicating.
BeN

I must say, it still looks good after all this time.
Twelfth Monkey

You'll know the right decision to make and the time at which to make it.  Enjoy.
Roadsterstu

Should the decision be made to move on the S, I could be seriously tempted. Sadly, the bank balance says a big "no"!
Glad to hear that you a putting some enjoyable miles on the GT4. Poor M3, reduced to commuter hack with all those disgusting 320d's...
Chris M Wanted a V-10

If you sell the M3, you could get one of those "My other car is a Porsche" stickers to put in the rear window of the S.......
Racing Teatray

I have to say the older car is looking good. It looks very elegant and simple compared to the new one.
Michael

I suppose I'd be wondering what the S adds to your life. Why would you drive that over either of the blue cars?

Does the GT4 feel any different in size? Is it actually any different in size?
PhilD

Racing Teatray wrote:
I have to say the older car is looking good. It looks very elegant and simple compared to the new one.


Are you saying the new one looks like the old one after it's been crashed through Halfords backwards?  
Martin

I don't see the point of keeping the old one, as nice as it is.
Stuntman

PhilD wrote:
Racing Teatray wrote:
I have to say the older car is looking good. It looks very elegant and simple compared to the new one.


Are you saying the new one looks like the old one after it's been crashed through Halfords backwards?  


You're both right (well Racing definitely is...)  

FB nailed it above as well.  The purity, simplicity and elegance of the older car are definitely strong points.  The newer car is somewhat bewinged and bespoilered, but works in my eyes in a fit-for-purpose kind of way.  And it's not as shouty in Sapphire Blue as it would be in yellow, white or red IMO.

Michael - the newer one doesn't feel different in size from behind the wheel.  It's marginally longer (about 8 cm I think) and marginally wider (2 cm).  The wheelbase is longer.

http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/cayman/cayman-gt4/featuresandspecs/

Anyway, off for another drive in the newer one soon, taking out another passenger...
Racing Teatray

Well OBVIOUSLY wot I meant was that the old one is girly and the new one clearly has big hairy ones!
franki68

Stuntman wrote:
PhilD wrote:
Racing Teatray wrote:
I have to say the older car is looking good. It looks very elegant and simple compared to the new one.


Are you saying the new one looks like the old one after it's been crashed through Halfords backwards?  


You're both right (well Racing definitely is...)  

FB nailed it above as well.  The purity, simplicity and elegance of the older car are definitely strong points.  The newer car is somewhat bewinged and bespoilered, but works in my eyes in a fit-for-purpose kind of way.  And it's not as shouty in Sapphire Blue as it would be in yellow, white or red IMO.

Michael - the newer one doesn't feel different in size from behind the wheel.  It's marginally longer (about 8 cm I think) and marginally wider (2 cm).  The wheelbase is longer.

http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/cayman/cayman-gt4/featuresandspecs/

Anyway, off for another drive in the newer one soon, taking out another passenger...


Is yours the first über gt4?
PhilD

Stuntman wrote:


http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/cayman/cayman-gt4/featuresandspecs/



Focussing on the most boring stat...

Luggage capacity 425 litres (150 l front / 275 l rear

JohnC

PhilD wrote:
Stuntman wrote:


http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/cayman/cayman-gt4/featuresandspecs/



Focussing on the most boring stat...

Luggage capacity 425 litres (150 l front / 275 l rear



That just confirms it then: the Cayman is a fully fledged, versatile car and we should all have one in our fleet - the man maths is undeniable.
cbeaks1

The Focus RS first drives are on the websites - you should add one for the perfect fleet.
Martin

The Cayman is very practical.  The Boxster only has 280 litresas it has lees boot space in the rear, but unlike some convertibles that isn't reduced with the roof down.  The front boot in both is a really practical shape, you can get 3 x Hand Luggage size cases in with space left.
Andy C

cbeaks1 wrote:
The Focus RS first drives are on the websites - you should add one for the perfect fleet.


Golf R !
cbeaks1

The Focus RS first drives are on the websites - you should add one for the perfect fleet.
Stuntman

franki68 wrote:
Is yours the first über gt4?


Hehe!  

I'm not going South of the river at this time of night, guv'nor...
cbeaks1

cbeaks1 wrote:
The Focus RS first drives are on the websites - you should add one for the perfect fleet.


Wtf?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

JohnC wrote:

That just confirms it then: the Cayman is a fully fledged, versatile car and we should all have one in our fleet - the man maths is undeniable.

Just find me someone who'll lease it for £70 pcm and under £3k deposit, and I know what to get when the PCP On the Ka runs out in July.....
Racing Teatray

cbeaks1 wrote:
The Focus RS first drives are on the websites - you should add one for the perfect fleet.


We talked about badges, but really we should talk about image. That's one car I have simply no interest in owning purely because it looks utterly chavvy to my eyes. It can drive like heaven on earth and I am still not bothered.
Stuntman

I think it looks just on the right side of acceptable in the Magnetic colour (metallic dark grey, I think) and without the Luxury Pack because I wouldn't want privacy glass.  Adding the better Recaros, the forged wheels and the SYNC nav makes it £32,725 OTR.

I wonder how long the waiting list is.  Anyway, I don't have any spare cash left and will certainly have a much bigger mortgage if I do ending up moving house!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Stuntman wrote:
... and will certainly have a much bigger mortgage if I do ending up moving house!

How far away from home is the new job?
Stuntman

105 miles by motorway, 85 miles cross country.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Gulp...... the car mileage is going to mount up fast then.......
Stuntman

I will stay in a hotel 5 nights a week, just as I've done for similar contract jobs.  If this one goes permanent, which is certainly their intention, I will be moving.

So the Cayman S and M3 will share the commuting duties for now.  I normally do 3 weeks in one before switching to the other.  The GT4 is the weekend fun car.
Giant

Stuntman wrote:
I will stay in a hotel 5 nights a week, just as I've done for similar contract jobs.  If this one goes permanent, which is certainly their intention, I will be moving.

So the Cayman S and M3 will share the commuting duties for now.  I normally do 3 weeks in one before switching to the other.  The GT4 is the weekend fun car.


Why three week stints rather than alternate weeks?
Roadsterstu

Giant wrote:
Stuntman wrote:
I will stay in a hotel 5 nights a week, just as I've done for similar contract jobs.  If this one goes permanent, which is certainly their intention, I will be moving.

So the Cayman S and M3 will share the commuting duties for now.  I normally do 3 weeks in one before switching to the other.  The GT4 is the weekend fun car.


Why three week stints rather than alternate weeks?


Easier than messing about with car parking, swapping them around?
Martin

Roadsterstu wrote:
Easier than messing about with car parking, swapping them around?


They're not double decker buses!
Stuntman

I've found that driving each one for about three weeks works well, because you fully dial into the car during that time and then appreciate the contrast when you change over.
PG

Decisions, decisions.

I too like the purity of form of big brother, but younger brother will be the one that gets all the looks and drives for maximum enjoyment.

In your shoes, and doing a bit of man maths, I'd sell the S and get a commuter car (on a short lease), to balance out a bit of the mileage on the M3. Like a Golf GTi - bound to be some good deals on VW'a at the moment!
Tim

Stuntman wrote:
I've found that driving each one for about three weeks works well, because you fully dial into the car during that time.


Journos must be super humans as they can do it within 1.5 laps of some exotic racetrack you've never heard of in a far flung country.
Either there or on the roads of Northern Scotland  
Stuntman

Tim wrote:
Stuntman wrote:
I've found that driving each one for about three weeks works well, because you fully dial into the car during that time.


Journos must be super humans as they can do it within 1.5 laps of some exotic racetrack you've never heard of in a far flung country.
Either there or on the roads of Northern Scotland  



You can certainly get a good impression of a car in about 10 minutes...
Tim

Agreed but not taking it to/beyond the limit.

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