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Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Buick Avista concept



Blarno

*cough JAGUAR cough*
TreVoR

Blarno wrote:
*cough JAGUAR cough*


My thoughts exactly!
simonp

Are they part of GM, as Opel/Vauxhall might have something to say about those front DRLs.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

simonp wrote:
Are they part of GM

Yes
Racing Teatray

Vauxhall Insignia coupe anyone?

Rename it a Calibra and I'm sure they'd sell a few. After all, if you can rebadge a Holden, I don't think a Buick is much of a stretch when it looks like that.
PhilD

That's not a rip off of any current Jag models, and is a very good looking car - jumped out at me from all the Autocar pics.
JohnC

It has a bit of Bentley Continental about it too (to my eyes at least).

I like it.
Roadsterstu

Racing Teatray wrote:
Vauxhall Insignia coupe anyone?

Rename it a Calibra and I'm sure they'd sell a few. After all, if you can rebadge a Holden, I don't think a Buick is much of a stretch when it looks like that.


Quite probably an "Insignia" coupe. New Insignia due early next year I think and that will be sold as a Buick in some markets.
BeN

The window line has a bit of Aston in it, but otherwise I think that looks great.
PG

Now, that is a good looking car.
Frank Bullitt

TreVoR wrote:
Blarno wrote:
*cough JAGUAR cough*


My thoughts exactly!


I can't see that myself, looks stunning either way
Martin

I really like that.  

I see more Bentley (rear arches specifically) than Jaguar, not that it matters.
Stuntman

I like it too, and also see the Bentley comparison.  The front grille is Jaguarish - and a bit too big.
Giant

I like it, although it's hard to judge the size, it looks Conti GT size but the report I read said its 4series sized.

It seems reasonable to at least hope that if this makes production that it makes its way over here as a Vauxhall, Buick seem to be Opel's federal brother, selling rebadged Insignias and Astra saloons.
Nelson

That's got a hell of a lot of Hyundai Genesis Coupe (I don't think we Brits got it on sale here).

It's not rocking my boat.

I need another look in other colours, until then, Hasta la vista Avista
Bob Sacamano

It's a handsome enough car but the problem I have with it is that it could be a car from any number of manufacturers - hence the varied suggestions from previous posts. There's a little bit of this and something taken from somewhere else and influence from another. You're never going to pull into a carpark and everyone know what you're driving - it's a smorgasboard of a designer's favourite bits.

For better or worse I prefer the Lexus in the other post, Lexus is building a recognisable design language and, for my money, it's better that it alienates some people and delights others. A lot of the main stream manufacturers are producing similar cars that seem to morph into one another. You used to be able to instantaneously distinguish a BMW from a Mercedes from an Audi - now it's like they have a central design studio and just change the badge.
Twelfth Monkey

Jag/Aston/hints of Tesla.  Lovely.
Bob Sacamano

It'll do well in the US where people are more open-minded, but brand it a Vauxhall and badge snobs here will give it a swerve no matter how good it looks.
TreVoR

Opel?
gooner

TreVoR wrote:
Opel?


They did that with the Manta to make it seem more exotic to us Brits.
Bob Sacamano

No chance will they'll re-introduce the Opel brand to the UK.
Grampa

Great looking car - to be honest I would be more inclined to buy a great looking car that neglects its brand identity than one that's a slave to brand identity and the design suffers as a result (e.g. BMW, Audi, Porsche) - matters not a jot to me, nor does it matter what the badge is - I would be as likely to buy it if it were a Ford, Vauxhall or a Jaguar.

I fail to see what difference it would make with Opel on the front as opposed to Vauxhall - for those who are brand conscious, surely Opel is exactly the same in its standing? - If anything Vauxhall has the more impressive heritage.
TreVoR

It looks way cooler as a badge for a start!
Big Blue

It's a Buick concept car. Whatever happens the interior will be bollocks AC Delco parts-bin stuff made of recycles water bottle plastic that has been baked to the constituency of a 1960s Bakelite telephone with none of the class.

Whoever designed its exterior has a DB9 on their desk as inspiration. Probably one next to their bed too.
Twelfth Monkey

Grampa wrote:
Great looking car - to be honest I would be more inclined to buy a great looking car that neglects its brand identity than one that's a slave to brand identity and the design suffers as a result (e.g. BMW, Audi, Porsche) - matters not a jot to me, nor does it matter what the badge is - I would be as likely to buy it if it were a Ford, Vauxhall or a Jaguar.


I want to agree with you - but there's always depreciation which does at least need considering.  If this ended up costing 50-60k, you aren't going to see a lot left after three years.  

Whether anything like this actually see the light of day has already been discussed!
Roadsterstu

If it sits on the same platform as the next Insignia it will be massive. Seen the spy shots? It's HUGE!
PG

Roadsterstu wrote:
If it sits on the same platform as the next Insignia it will be massive. Seen the spy shots? It's HUGE!


One of the appeals of the current Insignia was that it was not huge (like the Mondeo has become). So is the new one going to be 5 series sized?

Ford and GM missed a trick. If their plan was to make the Mondeo and Insignia that big, they should have kept the Scorpio and Senator names and ditched the Mondeo / Insignia. People would then have though "fuck that's cheap for such a big car". Instead of holding a ruler (size and price wise) against the 3 series.
TreVoR

My dad chose the Mondeo because he preferred it. I can't say that it felt like a massive car - the E500 felt comparable but that was a big car from 10 years ago.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

PG wrote:
One of the appeals of the current Insignia was that it was not huge (like the Mondeo has become).

Eh?

Mondeo 4869 x 1851 mm
Insignia 4830 x 1856 mm
Roadsterstu

PG wrote:
Roadsterstu wrote:
If it sits on the same platform as the next Insignia it will be massive. Seen the spy shots? It's HUGE!


One of the appeals of the current Insignia was that it was not huge (like the Mondeo has become). So is the new one going to be 5 series sized?

Ford and GM missed a trick. If their plan was to make the Mondeo and Insignia that big, they should have kept the Scorpio and Senator names and ditched the Mondeo / Insignia. People would then have though "fuck that's cheap for such a big car". Instead of holding a ruler (size and price wise) against the 3 series.


The Insignia isn't small. It was noted for its size, I thought. The Mondeo is even bigger. So the next Insignia will be bigger again. Probably.
Grampa

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
PG wrote:
One of the appeals of the current Insignia was that it was not huge (like the Mondeo has become).

Eh?

Mondeo 4869 x 1851 mm
Insignia 4830 x 1856 mm


I know what PG means - my daughter has an Insignia and a neighbour the latest Mondeo - when you can see them close to each other, the Mondeo appears to be a lot bigger.
PG

Grampa wrote:
Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
PG wrote:
One of the appeals of the current Insignia was that it was not huge (like the Mondeo has become).

Eh?

Mondeo 4869 x 1851 mm
Insignia 4830 x 1856 mm


I know what PG means - my daughter has an Insignia and a neighbour the latest Mondeo - when you can see them close to each other, the Mondeo appears to be a lot bigger.


Thank you! The statistics cannot lie, but I'd swear a Mondeo is huge next to an Insignia.

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