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BMW M2

On track this year every other Sunday.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/201...car-unveiled-ahead-of-2016/192655
Nice Guy Eddie

Those performance parts look great. The standard car needs something on the rear end as it looks a little flat compared to the pumped up aggression of the rest of it. Is it wrong I like the gold wheels?
Martin

That does look good (looking beyond the gold wheels and stickers) and agree about the rear end needing something to bring it in line with the rest of the car. †It looks too much like the standard 2 series, which looks like it has been backed into a wall....
Racing Teatray

First reviews out:

http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m2/17373...return-to-form-for-the-m-division

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-revi...i/first-drives/2016-bmw-m2-review
simonp

Looks to have an A Crapper Vitch hanging out the back...
Thomas Magman

Racing Teatray wrote:
First reviews out:

http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m2/17373...return-to-form-for-the-m-division

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-revi...i/first-drives/2016-bmw-m2-review


Autocar M2 review

http://youtu.be/21uVSuzja2Q

Don't know why but it appeals in a way the M4/3 doesn't

Just need to find a bit of spare cash down the back of the sofa  
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

As a former E46 M3 owner, I'm ever so slightly underwhelmed. The M2 is priced within a few percent of the E46 M3, but doesn't make me tingle in the same way.
Thomas Magman

I'm not too keen on the flaps in the area of what would normally be fog lights/brake cooling ducts in the front spoiler but other than that I like the looks.
Martin

I popped into my dealer last weekend as they were having an M weekend to launch the M2.  I love the way it looks from the front / side, but the rear isn't good at all and the interior isn't good enough at that price.  There was an M4 with full leather that looked and felt that it was worth than the price difference but if you don't need 4 seats, then a Cayman is on another level.  If you do, the M6 GC they had would get my money, but at 6-12 months old.

However, like the Focus RS, I would like a go in one.
Thomas Magman

Martin wrote:
I popped into my dealer last weekend as they were having an M weekend to launch the M2. †I love the way it looks from the front / side, but the rear isn't good at all and the interior isn't good enough at that price. †There was an M4 with full leather that looked and felt that it was worth than the price difference but if you don't need 4 seats, then a Cayman is on another level. †If you do, the M6 GC they had would get my money, but at 6-12 months old.

However, like the Focus RS, I would like a go in one.


I reckon we'll be bound to see a new Boxster/Cayman vs M2 head to head at some point in the press.
They did the 1M vs old Cayman R when the 1M was released a few times

http://youtu.be/wB5UDi2pYwE

I'm more of a small saloon/coupe person than a sports car as I usually need an extra seat or two
Martin

Forgot to mention that the exhausts weren't straight and I've looked at pics since, they're all the same. †The inner pipes are lower, minor point I know, but I can't help noticing things like that and it bothering me...... †
Thomas Magman

Martin wrote:
Forgot to mention that the exhausts weren't straight and I've looked at pics since, they're all the same. †The inner pipes are lower, minor point I know, but I can't help noticing things like that and it bothering me...... †


I've looked at a few images and I could just about see it on a couple



I'll have to wait till I see one in the flesh I think

It's the flaps in the front cooling ducts I don't like so much I think
Martin

Have a look at the cars on Autotrader. They're a lot worse than that
Chris M Wanted a V-10

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Are you sure that you don't want to make that photo any larger ???
Thomas Magman

Martin wrote:
Have a look at the cars on Autotrader. They're a lot worse than that


I see what you mean, some are worse than others though on my iPad which smacks off them not being hung quite correctly.

I think, if I was able to afford one, I'd be opting for the BMW PE anyway like on the black car, just to make the most of the straight six noise.
They do seem to have got that reasonably straight.......even if it does have a transfer of a photographer on the rear bumper.  

I spent a fair while getting my E21 323i wheelbarrow exhausts sitting right  
Racing Teatray

M2 verrry naice..(best Boris Johnson impression)...

However, M6 GC - wibble...
PhilD

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
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Are you sure that you don't want to make that photo any larger ???


I'll forgive him as it's a great pic.
Twelfth Monkey

Isn't it more that the black plastic above the pipes continues to rise, so the pipes seem less level than they are?  On that one, at least.
Martin

Could well be.

This is more like the one I saw (pic 18).  

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...=default&page=1&logcode=p
Twelfth Monkey

I see what you mean, though I think it could be that the inner pipes stick out further than the outer ones too.
Nice Guy Eddie

I think Twelfths explained it.

Its so odd what people compare the car too. A used M6 GC is not competition for this car, neither is an M5, which people seem to use as value identifiers.

The competition as I can see is a Cayman which you can now only have in 2.0T form or if you stretch to an S its still a 4 cyl. The RS Focus, Audi RS3 and Merc A45. None of which does it for me apart from the Focus.
Martin

They do stick out further (no idea why) but they still weren't level on the car I looked at.

Just sharing my opinion having had a good look at the car, we all have different views on value and what's important. †The new Cayman looks great, but I've not read or seen anything that makes me want one thanks to the new engine.
Thomas Magman

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
I think Twelfths explained it.

Its so odd what people compare the car too. A used M6 GC is not competition for this car, neither is an M5, which people seem to use as value identifiers.

The competition as I can see is a Cayman which you can now only have in 2.0T form or if you stretch to an S its still a 4 cyl. The RS Focus, Audi RS3 and Merc A45. None of which does it for me apart from the Focus.


Audi TTRS is out now too - last TT I saw offered little in the way of rear seat accommodation.

Not sure if this new one is better though

Sadly 2 seaters rule themselves out of my buying/consideration
Alf McQueef

I'll have to reserve judgement on that until I've seen some in the flesh. It is trying awfully hard and I'm not sure it beats the last 1M coupe.

The current M3/M4 looked a bit over-wrought on the plastic spoiler front, especially at the nose and tail, in pics but I really like them on the road. Especially the 4 door.
Racing Teatray

Thomas Magman wrote:
I'm not too keen on the flaps in the area of what would normally be fog lights/brake cooling ducts in the front spoiler but other than that I like the looks.


Agreed.
Giant

Martin wrote:
Forgot to mention that the exhausts weren't straight and I've looked at pics since, they're all the same. †The inner pipes are lower, minor point I know, but I can't help noticing things like that and it bothering me...... †


I had been thinking you were being a bit picky, until I saw this in the pub car park this afternoon:


Sav

The M6 GC does undoubtedly offer great value for money, but that is usually the case with a lot of used big-engined German rockets that arenít SUVís. However, Iím not sure those looking at the M2 will be considering a near two-ton car like the M6. If that is your thing, I canít help thinking that the almost identical M5 offers much better value. Second hand wise, a similar age M5 is some 12K cheaper than the oldest M6 CG. You would have to really want that svelte exterior and slightly nicer interiorÖ

As for the M2, I hope to see it in the flesh soon. Perhaps Porsche going to four cylinders with the Cayman makes the BMW even more special, because unfortunately it appears that six cylinder Caymanís will be preserved for the most expensive limited supply versions. I still think the M2 should have bespoke seats in Merino leather like the M4, but it has a decent standard spec, and compared to other cars, it looks like good value. A BMW 440i is not a direct competitor, but it is vaguely similar in terms of bodystyle and power, and that almost the same price as an M2, but it isnít a fully-fledged M model, and the new six-cylinder 718 Cayman GTS is likely to cost at least 10K more.
PhilD

Giant wrote:
Martin wrote:
Forgot to mention that the exhausts weren't straight and I've looked at pics since, they're all the same. †The inner pipes are lower, minor point I know, but I can't help noticing things like that and it bothering me...... †


I had been thinking you were being a bit picky, until I saw this in the pub car park this afternoon:




Yes, one exhaust is definitely higher than the other...
Andy C

M2, with a rear spoiler, looks the bollocks

Interior was more than fine for me, too.  Seat was also great
Nice Guy Eddie

To be honest I'm more than happy with the Interior of the M2 yes it might be based on a 20k 116i but on the flip side I drive a 7 year old Golf and an antique Porsche.

It may seem daft but its probably why I'd always avoid owning luxo barges as I'd struggle to go back to a more basic interior of sportscars and that's really the cars I love
Racing Teatray

I'm sure I'd be happy with the interior of the M2 since it is largely the same as my car. It only annoys me that they insist you have to have black leather.
Thomas Magman

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
To be honest I'm more than happy with the Interior of the M2 yes it might be based on a 20k 116i but on the flip side I drive a 7 year old Golf and an antique Porsche.

It may seem daft but its probably why I'd always avoid owning luxo barges as I'd struggle to go back to a more basic interior of sportscars and that's really the cars I love


I'm a bit the same - as long as nothing falls off and the seats hold you in place, have a nice steering wheel....that's about the extent of my interior wants. Things like the 'feel' of the primary controls, steering response etc are more important to me but I'm not really a luxo barge type.
Having said that i drive the cheap 3-series sawnoff ( which has been the best modern BM I've owned ) and a Sierra with a Ghia interior  
Sav

The interior wouldnít be a deal breaker for me either. It feels plush enough, and whilst I would prefer M4 seats mainly from a visual point of view, the standard M Sport seats are fabulously comfortable.

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