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Roadrunner

BMW i8 Passenger Ride

Wow! Just wow....

I'm speechless.

More to follow when I have composed myself...
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Yesterday when I was driving around Bracknell (to get on the M4, not just driving round and round that town with nothing better to do !), it was quite interesting to observe along one stretch of dual carriageway at several sets of traffic lights, an i3 on the inside lane and a Z4 in the outside lane........



i3 won hands down every time, and seemingly effortlessly
Roadsterstu

Re: BMW i8 Passenger Ride

Roadrunner wrote:
Wow! Just wow....

I'm speechless.

More to follow when I have composed myself...


Must have been some ride if you are still decomposed!
Roadrunner

I composed myself a while ago, just taken a while to get back to this.

Some friends came over with their new car so it would have been rude to turn down an offer of a B-road blast.



Let's start with the styling and build inside and out. I think it is absolutely stunning and looks right from every angle. The interior is really extreme BMW cockpit world and suits the car very well, with quality to match. Not the easiest car to enter or exit, but once in, it is a very nice place to be. Back seats are not much use to anyone over the age of 10 and luggage space is laughable, but that's not really what this car is about. Exposed carbon fibre is visible around the door jams and you can even make out the weave under the paintwork if you catch it at the right angle. I quite like the way is which the leaves you in no doubt about its construction or the fact that it is far removed from 'normal'cars. All the usual high end BMW gadgets are present, including the most sophisticated version of iDrive I have seen, HK audio, wifi hot spot and lots more techy gadgets.



Time to hit the road. Backing off the drive really does need the reversing camera, since rearward visibility is very limited. The silent progress takes some geting used to at firest and the ride quality in Comfort mode is a lot better than I expected. There is a vast range of modes and driving options. We tried full electric, the 'normal' mode where it switches between electric and petrol as required and then full fat, flappy paddle gear change, batshit crazy mode. That was my favourite  

30 MPH to warp factor 9 in no time flat, with the most delicious soundtrack. Bugger saving the planet, I would just have it in that mode the whole time. Being about the same weight as a crisp packet also helps it to stick to the road and change direction at crazy, crazy speeds without the merest hint of losing it.

I expected to like it, but came away absolutely besotted.
JohnC

All that from a few Duracells and a 1.5 litre 3 pot. It is quite amazing really and is definitely on my want list too.
Nice Guy Eddie

I love the i8 and the interior is next level but if I had the means I don't think I'd go for one over the more ordinary rivals. I love the doors and it all adds up to the drama of the car but getting in and out really isn't an elegant affair and would quite frankly get on your tits as an everyday car.
Humphrey The Pug

I've always wondered how that type of door works from a practical point of view, in a car park for example, can you still get in if someone parks next to you?
Andy C

Nice one James, they look and sound great
Big Blue

Yes these are currently top of my leader board in terms of "want one" supercars. Lucky bugger.
PhilD

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
I've always wondered how that type of door works from a practical point of view, in a car park for example, can you still get in if someone parks next to you?


do they have that fancy BMW self park thing?
Roadrunner

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
I've always wondered how that type of door works from a practical point of view, in a car park for example, can you still get in if someone parks next to you?


The doors are very impractical from a car park point of view and he says that it is definately not a car to take to the Tesco car park, unless you can guarantee a parent & child space. I dont thnink he has self park on this, but it is on the Tesla he has ordered for his wife. In fact my friend was saying about his Tesla test drive where they programmed in the dealer's address to the auto pilot and then the salesman said to let go off all controls. This was in the middle lane of the M42 at 60 MPH. The car indicated, moved over and pulled off at the correct junction...  
Clunes

A friend of mine at work had one as a courtesy car for a few days (previous courtesy cars include a 911 and M3) whilst her Skyline was being repaired.

The car is stunning and whilst I didn't get a passenger ride she was very positive about it.

Not sure what got more looks though - the car or her getting out of it (did I mention she's rather stunning and over 6' in the heels she often wears to work!)
Martin

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
I love the i8 and the interior is next level but if I had the means I don't think I'd go for one over the more ordinary rivals. I love the doors and it all adds up to the drama of the car but getting in and out really isn't an elegant affair and would quite frankly get on your tits as an everyday car.


+1

I sat in one in the Park alone dealership and it was very awkward to get in/out and as a result, the leather was quite badly worn on the bolster. †It's a bit too familiar inside too, the tech not the driving position or view out. †I really like them and would love to have a go, but couldn't see me choosing one over a 911.
PhilD

Martin wrote:
Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
I love the i8 and the interior is next level but if I had the means I don't think I'd go for one over the more ordinary rivals. I love the doors and it all adds up to the drama of the car but getting in and out really isn't an elegant affair and would quite frankly get on your tits as an everyday car.


+1

I sat in one in the Park alone dealership and it was very awkward to get in/out and as a result, the leather was quite badly worn on the bolster. †It's a bit too familiar inside too, the tech not the driving position or view out. †I really like them and would love to have a go, but couldn't see me choosing one over a 911.


I remember reading about how to get into the F1 and it was something like "stand on the passenger seat and launch yourself in" Did they come with a special cloth to put on the seat before standing on it?!

With the i8 is it bum in first then swing legs in?
JohnC

There was a cringeworthy video on YouTube of an overweight American who basically couldn't get out of an i8. In the end he rolled out on to the ground and picked himself up.
Frank Bullitt

Curious how the replacement of ICE by batteries is the death knell for enjoyable motoring yet I haven't read a report about a (proper) electric car that doesn't come away utterly impressed.
Stuntman

I don't think I'd choose one over its more conventional rivals either, but I am hugely impressed by the i8, especially considering it's BMW's first attempt.  Just think what the next generation version might be like.
BeN

It is a phenomenal machine. I drove one very briefly for a couple of hours last year, and it sure made a lasting impression on me.
PhilD

Stuntman wrote:
I don't think I'd choose one over its more conventional rivals either, but I am hugely impressed by the i8, especially considering it's BMW's first attempt. †Just think what the next generation version might be like.


Had a look at AT last night and they are much cheaper than the last time I looked (£70k not £100k). What would have have instead and why?
Stuntman

Purely based on evo's review, they say it doesn't have the handling sharpness of its best rivals.  I'm a sucker for good steering, a good front-end on corner entry and a well balanced car on corner exit.  As well as something that has a decent degree of ride comfort and which makes a nice noise.

If I was spending that sort of money on a new car in that price bracket I would look at the 911, R8 and Aston V8, and then probably play the winner off against the i8.  Realistically though, the Cayman/M3 level of car is plenty enough for me.
franki68

I went to test drive one,struggled to get in it and thought sod that ,I'm not buying another car I have to fall out of.
It does nothing for me though .
PhilD

Stuntman wrote:
Purely based on evo's review, they say it doesn't have the handling sharpness of its best rivals. †I'm a sucker for good steering, a good front-end on corner entry and a well balanced car on corner exit. †As well as something that has a decent degree of ride comfort and which makes a nice noise.

If I was spending that sort of money on a new car in that price bracket I would look at the 911, R8 and Aston V8, and then probably play the winner off against the i8. †Realistically though, the Cayman/M3 level of car is plenty enough for me.


Have a test drive Stunts and tell us what you think. The reviews I've read and seen say it does all of those things you mention (even Evo!)

In the fantasy world where I could afford a car like this I'd still want rear seats so the R8 and Aston are out.  A dark blue 911 Targa would do very nicely and probably fit perfectly into our lives but it is "just another Porsche" where as the i8 is a spaceship.
Stuntman

PhilD wrote:
A dark blue 911 Targa would do very nicely and probably fit perfectly into our lives but it is "just another Porsche" where as the i8 is a spaceship.


I agree entirely and that's what nails the i8's appeal.  I'll have to see what I can do regarding a test drive but I am in no financial position to even contemplate any changes other than selling and not replacing...  
PhilD

Its not the Martin way but I'm sure if you rocked up in a GT4 they would chuck you the "keys"*


*approve your retina scan for the flux capacitor
Alf McQueef

I like these more for the looks and the fact BMW has had a proper go at something special and M1-like, than the fact its electric. That indeed is its downfall - it can't sustain full performance for very long, which would make it useless for track days (which is something many people would potentially use this sort of thing for) and all the mags suggest its great but not as good to drive as the likes of the R8. Which is what I'd have.

If it did amazing MPG then it would make more sense, but reviews seem to range from 24-40 on that front, depending on how hard it is driven. Is the difference between say 15 and 25MPG - driven hard on a blat - going to make much difference to someone what could drop 6 figures on a toy? Is it worth the lack of screaming V8/10? What will residuals be like in such a rapidly developing market?

I'm glad they made it though - someone has to be first! I just personally think a Telsa S makes more sense, I'm hoping NA engines with 6+ cylinders remain in out and out sports cars for many years to come. In that light this and the new Boxster are worrying.

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