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Michael

BMW 520d M Sport Touring

When repairs to my car ran into the weekend I swapped over the courtesy car for an estate. Expecting another 3 I was surprised to get a 5 and a brand new 200 mile on the clock example at that.  
I have always thought the 5 series is too big but actually it is just the right size for me. The boot is cavernous, interior accommodation similarly so and supremely comfortable with it. I loved this car, more than I thought I would and I rate it much higher than the 3 series which I thought I wanted to replace the D3. Not so now.
Not keen on the white, I'd prefer the larger wheels and of course a larger engine, but otherwise with pro navigation and a few other options this was a perfect car. The engine is actually entirely adequate and the gearbox is a peach. Ride was a bit fidgety but I assume the active dampers would fix that. Like the 3 series before I had been annoyed that there was nowhere to put the key. It wasn't until I handed it back I realised there is a holder for it between the cup holders.
Next year I will be doing some sums as I really do want one of these.





Cats seemed to like it!
Martin

Yes, the 5 series is a great car, not at all surprised you liked it more than the 3 series.

Surprised you though the ride was fidgety on 18s as I thought it was really good on the bigger wheels.  Maybe the heavier engine helps?  I've read a fair bit on the different suspension options and understand that the variable dampers are softer than the std suspension in comfort and firmer than the M Sport in sport.  Adaptive drive is apparently much better, but it's nearly £3k and you get a raised ride height.
simonp

Built in pussy magnet, too?
Big Blue

Yes, this model is pretty much on the list as a replacement for die Schreibmaschine in 2017 - if I can find a D5 (possible) or B5 (rocking horse shit). I might have to buy a LHD in the EU as there's a few more but the prices are intergalactic for used cars.
Martin

Big Blue wrote:
Yes, this model is pretty much on the list as a replacement for die Schreibmaschine in 2017 - if I can find a D5 (possible) or B5 (rocking horse shit). I might have to buy a LHD in the EU as there's a few more but the prices are intergalactic for used cars.


Big Blue

Martin wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
Yes, this model is pretty much on the list as a replacement for die Schreibmaschine in 2017 - if I can find a D5 (possible) or B5 (rocking horse shit). I might have to buy a LHD in the EU as there's a few more but the prices are intergalactic for used cars.




I know - devil juice may have to be the order of the day due to those fools that order new ones insisting on getting better fuel consumption! If I'm honest the B5 is a bit TOO much mental and a current shape B3 would probably fit the bill. 2½years is a longish time but it's never too early to start planning the next car.
Martin

It's not always just about mpg, torque and range are other benefits!  They've stopped making the 550i Touring now, but you've a good a chance of finding one as a D5.  

Yes, never too early to start thinking.
Roadsterstu

Big Blue wrote:
Martin wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
Yes, this model is pretty much on the list as a replacement for die Schreibmaschine in 2017 - if I can find a D5 (possible) or B5 (rocking horse shit). I might have to buy a LHD in the EU as there's a few more but the prices are intergalactic for used cars.




I know - devil juice may have to be the order of the day due to those fools that order new ones insisting on getting better fuel consumption! If I'm honest the B5 is a bit TOO much mental and a current shape B3 would probably fit the bill. 2½years is a longish time but it's never too early to start planning the next car.


I was    for a different reason. Sell the Alpina? So soon? I think the days of the forum keeper are all but behind us.
Michael

I'll be fighting you for a D5 touring around the same time at this rate!
PhilD

£55k new, so how much in 2017?
PhilD

B5 £80k new!
Big Blue

PhilD wrote:
B5 £80k new!


The press B5 (FJ11 FCA) was in AT recently for about £36k and that was specced well, so £85-86k. £50k bath for Sytner

Advert is still there:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...n/automatic/radius/1500?logcode=p
Alf McQueef

The current 5 series Touring is a very handsome car - I regularly admire them, in fact I quite like them in white but I'm afraid it is my usual black and greys I like most.

I have this feeling a 5 is a bit big for me, especially as my car is not the default family car here, but for all the motorway miles I do I am sure it would be a lovely cruiser and before I change mine I will try to get a ride in one, or a drive of one, on some B roads to see if they seem too big. I must look at the figures as well and see how much heavier the 535i is than the 335i - ISTR a lot heavier. They have been around longer though, there must be some 535i tourings out there.

ISTR the reviews said they were very spec-dependent on the suspension front, which would need some reading into. Variable would be lovely - I would not want a big car like this to ruin its cruising credentials with a crashy ride, or for the mass to make it handle like a barge - best of both worlds would be nice.
Martin

ALF - the 535i is exactly 200kg more than the 335i.

I got to £69k when I specced a D5 Touring to my liking, which is just under £10k more than a 535d.  I didn't get as far as asking about a discount, but I bet they're hard to come by which could almost double the price gap.

The D5 only gets to 62mph 0.1 seconds quicker than the 535d and you can get more than D5 power and torque from Hartge for £2.5k fitted, but does it really need it?  I know it's not just about performance and Alpina make a number of other changes, but that's quite a premium.

The B5 is £75k before options and they don't seem to offer a Touring now.
Michael

Alf, I was of the same view that the 5 series would be far too big but actually it doesn't feel it. On the motorway it is very relaxing but it's not too shabby on A roads either. Tight winding roads you're probably going to be wanting something else but it's not that far removed from the 3 series. You really must try one for size. I wouldn't recommend crashing your car to do it though.
gooner

One D5 on AT. Not quite a bargain yet at £42k. Might appreciate in a few years if you're lucky.
Roadrunner

Martin wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
Yes, this model is pretty much on the list as a replacement for die Schreibmaschine in 2017 - if I can find a D5 (possible) or B5 (rocking horse shit). I might have to buy a LHD in the EU as there's a few more but the prices are intergalactic for used cars.




Nowt wrong with a big, wafty, torquey, six cylinder diesel.  IMHO, probably the best real world engines out there.
Martin

Roadrunner wrote:
Martin wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
Yes, this model is pretty much on the list as a replacement for die Schreibmaschine in 2017 - if I can find a D5 (possible) or B5 (rocking horse shit). I might have to buy a LHD in the EU as there's a few more but the prices are intergalactic for used cars.




Nowt wrong with a big, wafty, torquey, six cylinder diesel.  IMHO, probably the best real world engines out there.


You don't have to convince me!
Big Blue

As someone that considers himself to be a petrolhead I need convincing

Martin, Alpina make suspension changes too as well as a lot of cosmetic ones and the re-programme the gearbox and remove the speed limiter. Current Alpinas are merely made on the BMW line using Alpina bits whereas die Schreibmaschine was made by Alpina using a BMW base car.

B5 Tourings are still available to EU buyers and RoTW I think.
Martin

Big Blue wrote:
As someone that considers himself to be a petrolhead I need convincing

Martin, Alpina make suspension changes too as well as a lot of cosmetic ones and the re-programme the gearbox and remove the speed limiter. Current Alpinas are merely made on the BMW line using Alpina bits whereas die Schreibmaschine was made by Alpina using a BMW base car.

B5 Tourings are still available to EU buyers and RoTW I think.


I'm aware of the changes (including putting switches on the wheel when paddles would be much better imo), but I'd need convincing that they're worth nearly £20k!    

A big diesel estate makes a lot of sense, even for a petrolhead, especially it's likely to be one car in a mixed garage.  Pair one with a decent sportscar and you have a perfect combination for every occasion.  
Tim

Martin wrote:
Roadrunner wrote:
Martin wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
Yes, this model is pretty much on the list as a replacement for die Schreibmaschine in 2017 - if I can find a D5 (possible) or B5 (rocking horse shit). I might have to buy a LHD in the EU as there's a few more but the prices are intergalactic for used cars.




Nowt wrong with a big, wafty, torquey, six cylinder diesel.  IMHO, probably the best real world engines out there.


You don't have to convince me!


I've managed to bounce the 530 off the limiter in the lower gears a few times.
That's not what I'd expect from any diesel.
Big Blue

Martin wrote:


A big diesel estate makes a lot of sense, even for a petrolhead, especially it's likely to be one car in a mixed garage.  Pair one with a decent sportscar and you have a perfect combination for every occasion.  


Yes, this would be the only situation that I'd accept a diseasal in.
PG

Michael wrote:
Alf, I was of the same view that the 5 series would be far too big but actually it doesn't feel it. On the motorway it is very relaxing but it's not too shabby on A roads either. Tight winding roads you're probably going to be wanting something else but it's not that far removed from the 3 series. You really must try one for size. I wouldn't recommend crashing your car to do it though.


That extra size and weight make a big difference to cruising and comfort IMHO. And they all have better interiors.
PG

Re: BMW 520d M Sport Touring

Michael wrote:
...The engine is actually entirely adequate...


What a beautiful way to sum up a 4 pot diesel.  
Michael

Re: BMW 520d M Sport Touring

PG wrote:
Michael wrote:
...The engine is actually entirely adequate...


What a beautiful way to sum up a 4 pot diesel.  


I stand by it! My own 4 pot diesel has usefully more shove.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

simonp wrote:
Built in pussy magnet, too?

Seems to attract dead insects to the front bumper, too
Moto

B5 anyone?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ne-size-cars/4l_to_4-9l?logcode=p
Michael

That's the ex press car posted further up this thread. You can see the barge pole marks right down the side.
Alf McQueef

I had a run in one of these yesterday - it had a lumpier ride than mind but otherwise I was pretty blown away with how quick and un-dieselly it seemed. helped in no small part by the excellent 8-speeder. A very fine car and a lot quicker than I expected it to be - and that was 4 up too!
Martin

Alf McQueef wrote:
I had a run in one of these yesterday - it had a lumpier ride than mind but otherwise I was pretty blown away with how quick and un-dieselly it seemed. helped in no small part by the excellent 8-speeder. A very fine car and a lot quicker than I expected it to be - and that was 4 up too!


I've been saying all this for years!  

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