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gonnabuildabuggy

Black, why black? Where has the colour gone in life?

Been looking at a lot of cars online recently and one thing has struck me.

Virtually every interior is black.....Which is even worse with a black headliner.

RT's car is one of the few spec'd as a car should be - darkish outside, lighter interior, though ideally not cream, grey or beige.

So another level of complexity has been added to the compromise list.

This struck me as nice though:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classi...-335i-luxury-touring-2015/6358117 but unfortunately beyond my justified budget

And, as with RR Sports, I torn on X5's. I like them but not the image. Maybe a nice one would overcome that and this appealed.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classi...-x5-e70-xdrive30d-se-2011/6493867
Racing Teatray

I obviously could not agree more!

That 335i Touring has one big failing - it is listed as having the optional variable sport steering which all the roadtests say is horrible and to be avoided.

I like the styling of that generation of X5. Much better looking than the prior and subsequent generations. Friends of ours have one in 35d MSport flavour and it is very smart. Silver paint with black leather though...
Clunes

I definitely prefer a lighter (non cream/white) interior to black. The XF Spice interior really lifted things but was a very rare choice.

I would have liked tan/brown in the 6GC but there was only 1 I saw on the market and it was over budget and a long way away. The black I have lacks that more special lift like the interior in RTs new 440GC although I still love it as a place to sit.

Must do a write up soon.

O.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Re: Black, why black? Where has the colour gone in life?

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Been looking at a lot of cars online recently and one thing has struck me.

Virtually every interior is black.....Which is even worse with a black headliner.

When I  went to the preview of the Kadjar, a number of us who were there remarked to the Renault UK reps how nice its interior was - mid grey leather seats. They told us that these would not be offered in the UK - the market demands dark (ie black) seats as a majority are company cars and presumably the "keepers/drivers" do not keep their cars clean, since as it's not their car they just don't bother. Black hides the dirt much better.

A sad state of affairs
JohnC

I like that style of X5 too. You should go and drive one: my wife had one (a 55 plate) which used to eat miles with ease and corner way better than anything that size has a right to do. As a family wagon it is great.

The one you have highlighted also looks great with good bodywork and the right colour combination. The big sunroof is also a great extra to have.
Blarno

I have a black interior, but everything north of the dashboard is cream, which lightens things a bit.
simonp

I, too, like that shape of X5. I also like black interiors!
gonnabuildabuggy

JohnC wrote:
I like that style of X5 too. You should go and drive one: my wife had one (a 55 plate) which used to eat miles with ease and corner way better than anything that size has a right to do. As a family wagon it is great.

The one you have highlighted also looks great with good bodywork and the right colour combination. The big sunroof is also a great extra to have.


Trying to see if I can go and look at that one. So many I've looked at are silver/black and do nothing for me, that looks nice and has the right spec too.

my conclusion so far is that the right spec in terms of colour, etc is important. I don't "need" a new car so can afford to take my time to find something that appeals, that approach worked on the E500 and the Mini.
Grampa

I would always choose a non-black interior if I could, but very few cars I've owned have offered it as an option - I had a blue interior in my Mk2 Escort, but I trimmed that myself - I had a nice terracota colour interior in my Metro and since then, aside from the pinkish leather interior I had in my Xedos (way nicer than it sounds!) I've been stuck with various shades of grey or lots of black.
My Mk2 Astra Sri had white carpets which were a bit of a pain to keep clean.
I ordered a tan leather interior in the first Mini but I was told it would incur a 3 month delay - the closest I got to relieving the black was the cream bits in the Mini - trouble is I've mostly gone for the 'sports' model of the range and for some reason the manufacturers equate black to 'sportiness'.
I guess I've made up for it with the external colours though!
Twelfth Monkey

'None more black.'
Frank Bullitt

It's the UK markets predisposition to wanting their cars to feel 'sporty', there are plenty of cars where the LHD market has more interesting interior options but they simply aren't offered in the U.K. as the fleet market won't take ten due to risk on residuals; it usually needs a specific order or for a dealer showroom car to have been specified bravely for anything else.

The DS4 is a coal-hole inside (everything is black) but it suits the car, having said that if I could have pushed the budget a couple of grand I'd happily have bought one of the facelifted demo models which had Habana leather.
Bob Sacamano

I had black in my TT and first IS250, but then went for the silver leather on the next. It does give the interior a lift.

My 3 series Touring had the oyster leather with black carpet which was a good compromise and my current white 3 series has the red interior, which is very nice - the default "Asian" choice as my colleagues call it.
Martin

Up to now, I've always gone for a light interior if the option is available and the lower dash and carpets are black.   I decided on black this time and am very happy with it.  The contrast stitching and panoramic roof make a huge difference, I wouldn't have gone for it otherwise.
Roadsterstu

JohnC wrote:
I like that style of X5 too. You should go and drive one: my wife had one (a 55 plate) which used to eat miles with ease and corner way better than anything that size has a right to do. As a family wagon it is great.

The one you have highlighted also looks great with good bodywork and the right colour combination. The big sunroof is also a great extra to have.


I just showed that X5 to Mrs R. Oh dear. She loves it. Help.
gonnabuildabuggy

Roadsterstu wrote:
JohnC wrote:
I like that style of X5 too. You should go and drive one: my wife had one (a 55 plate) which used to eat miles with ease and corner way better than anything that size has a right to do. As a family wagon it is great.

The one you have highlighted also looks great with good bodywork and the right colour combination. The big sunroof is also a great extra to have.


I just showed that X5 to Mrs R. Oh dear. She loves it. Help.


It's mine. I give you first dibs after me.

Guy returned my call. He's a pilot and it's his wife's car. Bought from BMW and no expense spared over the 3 yrs he's had it. Real car enthusiast too.

He's not around at moment so planning to view it next week.
Michael

That's a nice car. I prefer the look of that model to the current one which is both ugly and forgettable in equal measure. That version also looks much better in the non-M-Sport specification and those wheels are the ones to have. One option it appears to lack is the third row of seats. Hardly a deal breaker but I know the prices for those are slightly better - perhaps a bargaining tool?
Tim

My bro-in-law is very impressed with his 60 plate X5 40d and has been surprised at both its pace and handling.

The interior of my M5 is black everywhere apart from the titanium trip but compared with modern cars it has big windows so it's not too dark inside.
gonnabuildabuggy

Martin wrote:
Up to now, I've always gone for a light interior if the option is available and the lower dash and carpets are black.   I decided on black this time and am very happy with it.  The contrast stitching and panoramic roof make a huge difference, I wouldn't have gone for it otherwise.


That would probably be my preferred option, though the 535 had black headlining, tan upper dash and beige seats/lower dash which was good.

Pano roofs do make a big difference and the E500 would still have felt dark without it due to the black headlining

Thinking about all my cars I've rarely had black interiors, though I'm sure they weren't so prevalent until 2000:

Car             Exterior        Interior
Chevette     Brown           Beige/Brown
Escort         Gold             Tobacco (Brown)
Cavalier SRi  Blue/Silver     Grey/Stripes
Golf GL        White            Blue
Golf GTI       Grey             Grey/check
Cavalier       Blue               Dark Grey
405             Blue               Grey
316i            Green             Grey
Omega        Green              Grey
318i            Blue                Grey
Passat         Silver              Grey
406             Blue                Grey
V40             Grey               Black (a real coal hole)
S60             Gold               Beige
Saab 93       Black              Grey
Mondeo        Silver              Grey
328i            Green              Dark Blue
535             Blue                Beige
E500           Black               Black/Tan
FRV            Blue                 Black
Mini             White/Black      Black/Cream
Golf 16v      Blue                 Grey/coloured stripes
E30            Red                  Grey/Check
Dolomite     Yellow               Black
MX5            Green               Tan
Roadsterstu

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Roadsterstu wrote:
JohnC wrote:
I like that style of X5 too. You should go and drive one: my wife had one (a 55 plate) which used to eat miles with ease and corner way better than anything that size has a right to do. As a family wagon it is great.

The one you have highlighted also looks great with good bodywork and the right colour combination. The big sunroof is also a great extra to have.


I just showed that X5 to Mrs R. Oh dear. She loves it. Help.


It's mine. I give you first dibs after me.

Guy returned my call. He's a pilot and it's his wife's car. Bought from BMW and no expense spared over the 3 yrs he's had it. Real car enthusiast too.

He's not around at moment so planning to view it next week.


Fingers crossed for you! I won't be looking in earnest until the spring, by which time I will have had the V50 for 3 years. I will save the "what should I buy for x budget?" thread until about March time!
Chip Butty

Most interiors are not black, they are a crappy charcoal grey.

Deep or jet black leather interiors look the absolute nuts, especially when offset by a lustrous burr walnut. For example, Rolls Royce do this combination exceptionally well (Jaguar used to).

Lighter colours are all well and good on the strict proviso that the lightness is limited to the seats and the door card infills. In such scenarios, the dash and door tops must be dark coloured (black or dark blue), as must the carpets.

Dark blue/black is very nice, as is ox blood/black (Rolls Royce or old Jaguar again). I also like the darker heritage tans when offset with black or dark blue.

Only a muppet would ever go " Full Cream ".
Racing Teatray

I do agree with CB.
Stuntman

Me too.  And generally, I like black.  Proper black, as per CB.

I think the most visually colourful interior I've had on a car was my VXT, which had black and blue leather seats and door cards with a blue exterior.  My other cars in the past 15 years have had mostly black interiors.  Before that, more of a mixed bag - with the '90s cars in particular having velour seats of varying hues and piping combinations!
TreVoR

The Legacy's interior was pretty dark. Luckily it had a light headlining and a massive sunroof which lifted it enormously.

The local farmer has a L322 Range Rover in grey with jet black seats with cream contrast piping. It looks superb. No privacy glass either.
Stuntman

Exhibit A:

http://www.newoldcar.co.uk/images...0AX%201.4%20GT%20Interior%203.JPG

Exhibit B:

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/i...ery/RENAULTMeganeCoupe-1966_1.jpg

Exhibit C:

JohnC

The VXT looks superb and a fantastic shade of blue. Not quite so sure I should comment on 90's style!
Stuntman

Not my car/photo, although I think mine was identical.  The interior pics of the AX GT and Megane Coupe 16v on the internet brought back happy memories!

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