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Chip Butty

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X260 Diesel S - Ammonite Grey with Jet interior with oyster contrast stitch.

Options :

20 inch star spoke alloys
Cold climate pack (heated steering wheel + heated seats front and rear)
Memory pack (14 way seats + memory + electric steering column)
Piano black inlays
In Control Secure.

I've only done 30 miles in it so far but I think it is fabulous, the ride seems to be very well judged, the steering is very precise and it feels brawny as hell on gentle throttle inputs.

Shame I couldn't do a back to back on my outgoing X250 - but after 7 months in the ST, I cannot directly compare.

I shall miss the ST and I was pleased my hand was " forced " into ordering one - but by jingo it's good to be back in a Jag.
Big Blue

Nice colour combo. Looks fabulous inside and out.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

That is perfect - lovely colour and wheels.
Alf McQueef

Lovely! You are driving this for a bit then? I'd love a run in it sometime if we are ever both at a forum meet, and will be interested to read your thoughts, it's a very possible next car in 2-3 years...

Edited to add - I've just read it properly (manflu is my excuse) and its not an ZE V6S. Boo! Will still be interested to see how it goes. Was hoping for an XE loan car today...
JohnC

That does look lovely. The first wheels I have seen which I like on the XE.
Martin

JohnC wrote:
That does look lovely. The first wheels I have seen which I like on the XE.


I can't see the picture, but isn't an X260 an XF?
Twelfth Monkey

Very nice, best colour for it from those I've seen.  Pity there's no V8.
JohnC

Martin wrote:
JohnC wrote:
That does look lovely. The first wheels I have seen which I like on the XE.


I can't see the picture, but isn't an X260 an XF?


Looking again Martin you, as always, are correct. The front looks so similar.
gonnabuildabuggy

Lovely car and great colour combo.

New house as well?
Racing Teatray

JohnC wrote:
Martin wrote:
JohnC wrote:
That does look lovely. The first wheels I have seen which I like on the XE.


I can't see the picture, but isn't an X260 an XF?


Looking again Martin you, as always, are correct. The front looks so similar.


It's the extra window in the c-pillar that you need to look for. Absent that I do find them hard to tell apart...
PhilD

Racing Teatray wrote:
JohnC wrote:
Martin wrote:
JohnC wrote:
That does look lovely. The first wheels I have seen which I like on the XE.


I can't see the picture, but isn't an X260 an XF?


Looking again Martin you, as always, are correct. The front looks so similar.


It's the extra window in the c-pillar that you need to look for. Absent that I do find them hard to tell apart...


I was about to post that I saw my first XE in the world yesterday and how good it looked...
PG

That looks oh so much better then the base spec one with vomit interior that I had as a loan car.

Please can I join Jag's customer-feedback interior workshops? Because apart from all black, all the other two-tone or pale interiors are pretty shyte to my eye.

But if it drives as well, it'll be a great drive.

Have you tried / seen one with the TFT dash yet?
Alf McQueef

Looks like most of us thought it was an XE! Having just sat in a Jaguar showroom for 45 mins, they are very similar from the front, even the XJ looks quite similar now. The XF has also adopted the XE vents above the screen. The interiors all look very nice in the flesh, some plastic buttons aside.
PG

Racing Teatray wrote:
It's the extra window in the c-pillar that you need to look for. Absent that I do find them hard to tell apart...


That's the only really obvious visible sign. It is s shame that Jag could not differentiate the models more. But then Russian doll styling has not harmed the German marques.
Martin

JohnC wrote:
Looking again Martin you, as always, are correct. The front looks so similar.


I certainly wouldn't say that and I may also have been thrown by the picture, I'll let you know when I get home.
Andy C

That looks outstanding
Chip Butty

Apologies, X260 is an XF, in this instance, the 300ps 3.0 diesel.

Obviously, I wanted a silver one, but silver is not allowed - however, I am very pleased with the Ammonite, it is very smart.

Yes - new gaff purchased - needed the space (double garage and big driveway a bonus)

I've only seen In Control Pro on the web demo - looks quite flash, but my car was built before ICP J#1.

Might get it specced next time round.
Blarno

I genuinely thought that was an XE. I'm well out of date on modern cars nowadays.

Looks tidy, as all Jags do now. I don't think they do a bad looking car. At least until the F Pace arrives.
Chip Butty

Quote:
Lovely! You are driving this for a bit then?


Re-order at 6 months or 6k miles.
Martin

By far the best looking new XF I've seen, I really like the wheels and the colour.   It's a shame about the rear, but you've wisely avoided taking a picture of it.
JohnC

Why no silver cars?

Will be interesting to see what Jaguar's take is on the 300hp twin turbo diesel.
Frank Bullitt

Quite like that, the colour and wheels really set it nicely.
gooner

Very nice, looks good in that colour but I do wish it looked a bit different to the XE and that they'd done something with that big slab of plastic next to the central screen. I looks like there's meant to be something else there.
Chip Butty

Quote:
Please can I join Jag's customer-feedback interior workshops?


You can get behind me in the queue - the S trim palette is rather sparse. Portfolio is better and the seats look nicer, but colour options are limited and you can't have a portfolio in the UK with a proper engine.

Quote:
Why no silver cars?


Presume it's been too popular in the past.

Quote:
that they'd done something with that big slab of plastic next to the central screen


It's aluminium - but I get the point
Twelfth Monkey

Blarno wrote:
I genuinely thought that was an XE. I'm well out of date on modern cars nowadays.

Looks tidy, as all Jags do now. I don't think they do a bad looking car. At least until the F Pace arrives.


Ah.  Me too.

The front and rear valances look more shrink-wrapped, which is why I made a mistake.
Roadsterstu

I like that. Only the dash bothers me a bit in the new XF (bit in front of passenger). I could live with it tho.

Nice new pad too.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Chip Butty wrote:
Obviously, I wanted a silver one, but silver is not allowed - however, I am very pleased with the Ammonite, it is very smart.

You were lucky, I would say - that it a way nicer colour than silver. Very interested to hear your impressions of Touch Pro when you get to try it - guy in Top Gear mag described it as a game-changer.
Chip Butty

Some observations now I've had a few more decent trips

Just to echo my initial thoughts, I am amazed at the even higher standard of chassis tuning alchemy in evidence. For a car running a 255/35 section tyre, the ride quality is superb and general level of swishy waftement is exceptional.

I am also very impressed with the engine - it's very quiet and delivers huge slugs of grunt without needing to pass 3000 rpm. This thing is going to feel immense when it's loosened up and throw big punches with minimal effort and noise.

The crappy iphone picture I took doesn't do the interior justice - the way the doors wrap around and into the riva hoop that runs around the top of the dash is lovely. The steering wheel looks and feels great and the new media system and 5 inch TFT monitor are flash and intuitive.

I'm not at fan of the analogue type faces or the grey tubes they are set in and they should put some soft grain leather and an alcantara roof liner back in. I'll re-appraise once I've had a poke around the new E-Class.

I'm not one for apps and all that rubbish, but as part of in control secure, you need to register the car online and you can get the Jaguar remote app.

Amongst other things, this means you can lock and unlock the car with your phone, put the car in transportation/service mode remotely, report the car stolen, track it's movements, make the car beep and flash if you have lost it in a car park. The best bit though is the ability to start the car remotely and set the climate control or set a timer to start the car remotely. The journey tracker is quite useful too as it keeps a record of the stats for each journey.

No CD player though ! - I expect I have to get with the programme and put some choons on the ibone.
Alf McQueef

Chip Butty wrote:

Just to echo my initial thoughts, I am amazed at the even higher standard of chassis tuning alchemy in evidence. For a car running a 255/35 section tyre, the ride quality is superb and general level of swishy waftement is exceptional.


Has it got adaptive suspension? The XFR is exceptional in this regard, and it is the main thing that is likely to keep me in a Jaguar. UK roads are shit, and only ever get worse - with Jaguar you can have your cake and eat it, with massive, good looking wheels, great ride quality at low and high speeds and even on the worst roads, and yet minimal cornering roll. It is indeed alchemy, what I have always wondered is if this only comes with the adaptive suspension, and how far down the range that goes (I think on the original XF's all the "S" models and higher had it).
Chip Butty

Yes, adaptive dampers are standard on S models and were standard on all my previous Jags apart from the nat asp XF V8s. You could tell the difference because although the V8 S cars rode well, they didn't handle as well as the AD cars.

The extra rigidity of the new ally shell is very evident and pays handsome dividends in terms of ride/handling balance.
franki68

Lovely colour ,enjoy!
Stuntman

Thumbs up from me, that looks lovely - and I'm very envious of your house, garage and driveway
Grampa

Looks stunning - seems to be the perfect colour to show off its lines - looks a lot sleeker than any others I've seen (only in photos so far) - and I did realise it was an XF straight away - the proportions are better than the XE
Bob Sacamano

It does look good that. I'd still argue it doesn't quite have the presence on the road of the old model.
Chip Butty

So a collective thumbs up for the colour then.

I still think silver is the one to have though....next time hopefully

Roadsterstu

Nope, for me Ammonite is much better than silver. Fine looking machine.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Roadsterstu wrote:
Nope, for me Ammonite is much better than silver. Fine looking machine.

+1
Grampa

I prefer yours too.
TreVoR

I like both but I suspect that the contrast in the photo has been messed with - in the real world I suspect the darker one will look better.
Michael

I like that a lot. The grey car looks better to these eyes and appears to have a nicer bumper than the silver one.
Chip Butty

The silver car is an R-Sport with the black pack (same bumper moulding, but different insert to the S).
PR

Very tasty indeed. I like the silver also - I had a 2.0 180 diesel recently, exactly like the one in that pic, and it was a smart looking thing.
Chip Butty

Torque-zilla has had a bath...





How much do I like this car ?

Well - I've done just under 3500 miles in 4 months, and I don't use the car to commute. A big chunk of those miles were early morning A and B road miles.

It is a delight to drive and the power delivery is perfectly suited for yomping between corners - it really does shovel.
Roadsterstu

Still not built those houses behind yours yet?
Chip Butty

They've built every other house now - just those to finish.
Alf McQueef

Looks very nice. I really like the front end styling on the new XF's.

I'd love a go in a V6 diesel one - apaert from an early 2.4 156 5-pot  I don't think I have ever driven a diesel with more than 4 cylinders, or one that has anything like this much shove.

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