Archive for The Motor Forum "We are mature men in the highest cadres of our careers"
 


       The Motor Forum Forum Index -> Classified Information
PhilD

A plaything for Racing

Not quite a VW Polo but a nice weekend toy nonetheless

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201601290520679?atmobcid=soc3
Frank Bullitt

It's got a spare, so it might go quickly!

Really like that.
PhilD

Found it playing my new favourite game "what can I get for X on Autotrader"
Humphrey The Pug

Hate the green.
PhilD

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Hate the green.


Fair enough (hence the "for Racing" title) but it's a very nice little car for not a lot of no?
Martin

It doesn't have Tan leather and Wood Trim, so it's only 1/3rd of the way to Racing spec.

It is a nice car for the money, but I couldn't get past the dated beige interior, it wouldn't look as bad if it was all black.
PhilD

Martin wrote:


It is a nice car for the money, but I couldn't get past the dated beige interior, it wouldn't look as bad if it was all black.


plenty around at that price without tan! My point is, low mileage Boxters are quite cheap.
Martin

And it's a good point.
Frank Bullitt

PhilD wrote:
Martin wrote:


It is a nice car for the money, but I couldn't get past the dated beige interior, it wouldn't look as bad if it was all black.


plenty around at that price without tan! My point is, low mileage Boxters are quite cheap.


And the interior looks superb!
Bob Sacamano

To be honest, for that sort of money and an in that condition the colour of the interior wouldn't bother me. Tan always looks wank in photos anyway.
PhilD

There's probably some correlation between unusually specced cars and how well they are looked after.
Martin

I like this one and it's the facelift model too (glass rear screen, glovebox, 8 more BHP etc)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...rs&sort=default&logcode=p
PhilD

Did they lighten the indicators on the facelift or is that a mod?
Racing Teatray

They did away with the orange.

Nice try and I have been contemplating one of these as Mrs Racing is very keen. But pretty sure she wouldn't like that colour. Not sure I do either. It's just not quite dark enough I think.

You can't really have wood in a Porsche sports car. Just doesn't look right. Better just to have everything swaddled in lashings of moo.
PhilD

Porsche says Teutonic says metal to me. Cool expensive stuff.
Martin

Yes, clear indicators front/rear on the facelifted cars, but it's the glass rear screen that's the most important change.  Racing is right, the more leather covered surfaces the better.
Big Blue

Oh my word, they are dirt cheap to buy aren't they?
Bob Sacamano

Big Blue wrote:
Oh my word, they are dirt cheap to buy aren't they?


You'll feel like you've been arse raped by a horny Moose though when you get the next service or repair bill though.
Martin

Parts will be expensive, but a good specialist will only charge 200-300 for a service and it's not going to lose money at that price point.
PG

Martin wrote:
Parts will be expensive, but a good specialist will only charge 200-300 for a service and it's not going to lose money at that price point.


I was shocked by how cheap they appear to be. But then I did a search on 3.2 Mk1 TT's and was even more shocked. They seem to have plummeted in value since I looked a few years ago.

3.2 quattro, 2004, 54k miles, nice blue with tanm leather and all black elsewhere. 5,990.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201602141028086

You just need to be brave and take any repair hits with good grace.
JohnC

I have a client who buys 8 to 10 yr old Boxsters (he's also had a Cayman) which are in good condition with full service history. He is fussy and chooses carefully but never spends more than about 17K/18K. He puts a private plate on, runs it for a couple of years and then sells it on, never losing more than about 2K a year which as he says, is less than the cost of leasing a modern box.

His biggest costs have been tyres but one Boxster needed a new clutch which set him back a bit. He uses a specialist for servicing and reckons he gets much more enjoyment than 2K a year deserves. He's always telling me to do it.
Martin

You should. I'll let you know when there's a really good one for sale.

It won't cost much to re-paint the wheels.
JohnC

I'm tempted but currently shovelling all I can into my pension pre budget day. Still, the online side of the business is beginning to get some momentum, so who knows!
JohnC

Double post from nowhere!
Martin

That's OK, you've got at least a year!

Tyres aren't too bad, just under 200 for rears and 150 for fronts (N2 rated P Zero), although they don't last as long as you're used to. I've just looked at the latest price for the BMW as they're down to 3mm and the best I can get is 211 (same size front/rear) for Goodyear Excellence, so nothing special.
JohnC

I haven't bought any tyres for the 4 yet but had to buy rears for the 335 a few months before selling and they were about 265 each for Bridgestone RE050. Nothing is cheap!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

I can still remember paying 100 (total) for a set of 4 Good-Year Grand Prix S tyres for my old Honda....
Martin

JohnC wrote:
I haven't bought any tyres for the 4 yet but had to buy rears for the 335 a few months before selling and they were about 265 each for Bridgestone RE050. Nothing is cheap!


Indeed!  Not everything is expensive on a Porsche then either.  Just looked at yours on Blackcircles, there's choice under 200 for RFTs for fronts and rears, with the fronts being slightly more expensive surprisingly.
Frank Bullitt

PG wrote:
Martin wrote:
Parts will be expensive, but a good specialist will only charge 200-300 for a service and it's not going to lose money at that price point.


I was shocked by how cheap they appear to be. But then I did a search on 3.2 Mk1 TT's and was even more shocked. They seem to have plummeted in value since I looked a few years ago.

3.2 quattro, 2004, 54k miles, nice blue with tanm leather and all black elsewhere. 5,990.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201602141028086

You just need to be brave and take any repair hits with good grace.


The guys at The TT Shop mentioned the 3.2 is a bit of a diamond, it needs the 40k/ 4 year service done on the DSG 'box if fitted otherwise it will go wrong but other than that they are bullet-proof.
JohnC

Strangely, I had 2 clients who had 3.2 TT's at approximately the same time and both now have 911's. It must be something about the shape.

Both also suffered brake problems on the TT with new discs being required a bit too often!
Racing Teatray

I managed to find a green Boxster with wood:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...rch-target=usedcars&logcode=p
Martin

You were right.....
PhilD

Oh dear...

I'll take the pink RS. Or the 993. Or the tractor....
JohnC

Racing Teatray wrote:
I managed to find a green Boxster with wood:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...rch-target=usedcars&logcode=p


In terms of value, I think that looks really good. I am sure that it would be possible to source a new steering wheel and trim and although you can't do anything about the dash, it's quite a lot of car for the money and only just run in.
PG

That interior is just hideous before the wood is added. Then the "wood" (and I use that term with trepidation) just puts the finishing awfulness to it.
Frank Bullitt

I like that interior!
Racing Teatray

I wasn't sure even if it was wood or just two-tone leather!
PhilD

Racing Teatray wrote:
I wasn't sure even if it was wood or just two-tone leather!


Good point! A subtler job, which could look good, would be to just replace the crappy sliver plastic bits with a nice wood.
Racing Teatray

Now this is my kind of 911:

Manual - tick
4wd - tick
Targa - tick
Green - tick
Dark leather - tick
Good spec - tick
Immaculate condition and history - tick

http://www.masonshitchin.co.uk/vehicle/porsche-911-targa/
PG

Racing Teatray wrote:
Now this is my kind of 911:

Manual - tick
4wd - tick
Targa - tick
Green - tick
Dark leather - tick
Good spec - tick
Immaculate condition and history - tick

http://www.masonshitchin.co.uk/vehicle/porsche-911-targa/


Nice colour.

I'm loving the period mobile phone holder. Probably a 2000 Porsche accessory at the time.  
Scouse

Racing Teatray wrote:
Now this is my kind of 911:

Manual - tick
4wd - tick
Targa - tick
Green - tick
Dark leather - tick
Good spec - tick
Immaculate condition and history - tick

http://www.masonshitchin.co.uk/vehicle/porsche-911-targa/


It might be called Targa, but it's just a big-ass sunroof.
Racing Teatray

Scouse wrote:
Racing Teatray wrote:
Now this is my kind of 911:

Manual - tick
4wd - tick
Targa - tick
Green - tick
Dark leather - tick
Good spec - tick
Immaculate condition and history - tick

http://www.masonshitchin.co.uk/vehicle/porsche-911-targa/


It might be called Targa, but it's just a big-ass sunroof.


Yes of course, but I like big-ass sunroofs and I like the slightly more angular side profile of the 996/7 Targas.
Bryan M

That is a lovely car - buy it
Martin

PG wrote:
I'm loving the period mobile phone holder. Probably a 2000 Porsche accessory at the time.


That's a standard Nokia car kit, I had one the same many years ago.

You're probably right on the price, but the factory fitted phone was better integrated.


PG

I think that'd be a nicer buy as your Porsche than a Boxster,  as your "2 seater plus 500X" combo.
PhilD

Scouse wrote:


It might be called Targa, but it's just a big-ass sunroof.


PG wrote:
I think that'd be a nicer buy as your Porsche than a Boxster, as your "2 seater plus 500X" combo.


A big ass sunroof and a glass roof making it light and airy. And PG it's more than a 2 seater so perfect for when Mini Racing comes along

https://youtu.be/BpvNPExDCKA
Racing Teatray

It's possibly a case of right car, wrong timing. I couldn't do anything about this until at least after Easter for one reason or another, so I'd imagine it will have sold by then.
Racing Teatray

Going to take a look at the green Targa tomorrow. Just couldn't resist.

Am a complete Porsche virgin, so should be interesting.
Clunes

Good on you - it looks lovely - my kind of car as well and when I saw it It made me go searching for 911's again.

They have some very nice looking vehicles there - everything seems to be in great condition - the Z4 Coupes, Caymans etc all appeal
gooner

Good luck, will it replace the M135?
JohnC

Racing Teatray wrote:
Going to take a look at the green Targa tomorrow. Just couldn't resist.

Am a complete Porsche virgin, so should be interesting.


Check that service book. The stamp in the middle on the left appears to suggest the date was 1/11/15 with a mileage of 38,834. It might just be bad writing or my eyes and could be 1/11/05 and 18,834 but worthy of a check.

I don't know if Porsche have the ability to print you out the full service history but it might be worth trying.

It looks lovely though and that "sunroof" is fantastic. Looks like new tyres and either refurbed or new callipers.
Bryan M

Definitely get a specialist to check it over, assuming you go beyond looking!

Does the 3.6  suffer from the same engine issues the 3.4 used to?

Enjoy
Frank Bullitt

I'm sure an aficionado will point out the accurate pronunciation, but I used to know a guy with a 993 Targa and the only thing that was crap about it was his insistence on calling the car a 'Tar-ja' which may be technically accurate but always made him sound like a knob.
Michael

Unless that guy you used to know is Sean Connery then he is indeed a knob.
Big Blue

As far as I'm aware "g" is always hard in German, as in Golf.

Racing: always loved a sunroof and this is the first option ticked, no?
Roadsterstu

Big Blue wrote:
As far as I'm aware "g" is always hard in German, as in Golf.

I thought so too.


Racing: always loved a sunroof and this is the first option ticked, no?
Racing Teatray

It was extremely minty. However, the previous viewer had reserved it until Thursday pending sale of his current car.

Also tried an 07 SL500 5.5 designo on sale at the same dealer. Nice, went like stink with a proper V8 bellow and a lot of car for the money, but just not a patch on the 996 in terms of that intangible want-one factor.
Nice Guy Eddie

Targa name came from the Targa Florio race. As far as I'm aware it's always pronounced with a G
Martin

Have you thought about looking for a nice early 997?  Much improved looks and interior imo, although I don't think they're worth the premium over a similar Boxster / Cayman.
Racing Teatray

Early 997s in budget are rarely nice.
Martin

No sunroof, but this isn't much more than the 996. Some nice extras including PASM, sports exhaust and red stitching

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ert/201603131923478?atmobcid=soc3
Big Blue

The red stitching lifts that cabin out of the doldrums.

Question is would you hand over 25 long ones to some bloke in a private sale? The B5 is only a few k more but the fact I'm getting a BMW warranty, buying from a BMW dealer gives me some degree of comfort: more than I'm getting from the finance transfer this last 2 days
Racing Teatray

No sunroof is a deal-killer I'm afraid.
Clunes

Talking of Alpina and Porsche I saw this advertised at 911Virgin which is a Porsche specialist near me.

http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/1052/AlpinaB6Convertible/

I don't think I could carry off a convertible and I've no idea if it represents good value (although it seems rare so depreciation should be low) but I can imagine its a pretty nice place for someone to mooch around in during the summer months
Big Blue

Clunes wrote:
Talking of Alpina and Porsche I saw this advertised at 911Virgin which is a Porsche specialist near me.

http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/1052/AlpinaB6Convertible/

I don't think I could carry off a convertible and I've no idea if it represents good value (although it seems rare so depreciation should be low) but I can imagine its a pretty nice place for someone to mooch around in during the summer months


Blimey. Costly. Soon-to-be my B5 BiTb Touring is a 2011 and I'm paying 33-34k with about 20k more miles on it. I do like those wheels, though.
Racing Teatray

Yes, being familiar by now with most of the Porsche indies, I saw that B6. Also struck me as expensive. I think you'd have to buy it with the intention of it being a keeper, because you'd probably struggle to sell it on for anything like that.

       The Motor Forum Forum Index -> Classified Information
Page 1 of 1
Create your own free forum | Buy a domain to use with your forum