Li'ldude
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A Drivetrain QuestionSimple this...
Included a couple of ones for Porsche fans.
Personally, I think Mid-engine, 4WD.
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Blarno
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Having owned 3 of the above drivetrains, I find it hard to choose. I've had more FWD cars than anything else, but that's purely because of their ubiquity. I'd love another RWD or a really powerful 4WD, such as an RS4.
I will have to vote FWD, as it's what I know best.
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Matt
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FR
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BeN
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Having no experience whatsoever, I picked front-engine 4WD. Nice to have safety.
The Corolla is an FF car, and squirms nervously when taking high speed corners. Noticable understeer as well.
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Jasper
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I do, on the road prefer Front/ Front. Simple, cheap and safe. All good words to the masses.
But just for fun? Front engined Rear wheel drive.
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Stuntman
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I voted MR: direction-changing ability, resistance to understeer, cornering precision and proximity to mechanical noise swing it for me.
Honourable mentions:
FR - tops for entertainment but not quite there in the precision stakes IME so far
F4 - most confidence-inspiring IME so far.
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Nice Guy Eddie
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Rear engined, Rear wheel drive.
I need a 911 badly to cure me of this stupidity
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:-(
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FR - but I haven't driven anything else apart from FF
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Stuntman
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I've driven all these layouts apart from M4. In fact, I can't immediately think of anything that's mid-engined and 4WD.
Anyone?
Edit: oh yes, Gallardo, Diablo, Murcielago and R8 perhaps. Still haven't driven those!
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| BeN wrote: | Having no experience whatsoever, I picked front-engine 4WD. Nice to have safety.
The Corolla is an FF car, and squirms nervously when taking high speed corners. Noticable understeer as well. |
Remind me never to buy a Corolla then. That and passenger with you.
Im the same as Blarno, FF as its what I know, however I think MR would be the best for the same reasons as Stunters stated.
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BeN
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Ahem.
I'd like to think I will do better on an empty track, though I won't know for sure.
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Matt
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Fun can be found in anything though. My near-obsession for RWD is just the history behind it; how it's been the standard for racing since time immemorial and the knowledge you have it and can build up some thrills mid-corner if you like, by changing the aggression by unsettling it slightly, which I know isn't exclusive to RWD. I can say I wouldn't have done that in the Vectra but having not driven a Focus on a b-road, I'm not going to make statements my ass can't cash, something I've been guilty of this week with the RWD vs. 4WD thread.
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Jasper
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| Stuntman wrote: | I've driven all these layouts apart from M4. In fact, I can't immediately think of anything that's mid-engined and 4WD.
Anyone?
Edit: oh yes, Gallardo, Diablo, Murcielago and R8 perhaps. Still haven't driven those! |
I give you THE Panther Solo 2.
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Matt
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That still looks futuristic. Cosworth engined, wasn't it?
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Li'ldude
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Looks like a dubbed MR2.
On the basis of which I am most familiar with, it has to go to F4, as the only car I have driven was 4wd.
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D.
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| Matt wrote: | | That still looks futuristic. Cosworth engined, wasn't it? |
Yep, 204bhp. I don't think I've seen one since the '89 motorshow.
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D.
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| Slow Eddie wrote: | Rear engined, Rear wheel drive.
I need a 911 badly to cure me of this stupidity |
Beetle/Smart?
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Martin
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I've driven FF, FR, MR and F4. A reasonable selection, but not really enough to make a definitive decision.
It's an impossible one to answer anyway, as it depends on how much power the car has and what it is. e.g I've driven a A4 with Quattro , but I expect that I would have been more impressed if it was the RS4. The lower end 4 cylinder models don't really need 4WD. Also, I expect the Boxster I've driven would make a better case for MR than some other cars would have.
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D.
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| Stuntman wrote: | I've driven all these layouts apart from M4. In fact, I can't immediately think of anything that's mid-engined and 4WD.
Anyone?
Edit: oh yes, Gallardo, Diablo, Murcielago and R8 perhaps. Still haven't driven those! |
And of course the Veyron.
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LittleSwill
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And the S4.
Can anybody think of a RF or MF?
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Stuntman
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Ranulph Fiennes and Margaret Fatcher?
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Matt
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Marriella Frostrup?
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BeN
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MF, Toyota Previa?
But I think that's RWD. Not sure.
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Blarno
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| BeN wrote: | MF, Toyota Previa?
But I think that's RWD. Not sure. |
It is RWD. The only mid-engined people carrier in the world...
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D.
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Does the ItalDesign Columbus count?!
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Matt
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That was an awesome design.
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woof woof
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Ah the Panther Solo.
I remember lusting after one of these but I read that in reality the few they made were rough. I remember that the designer went to work for some Korean company. Dunno if it was the same maker who bought the rights to the "new" Lotus Elan or not but I did await the launch of a better engineered and better made Solo but as far as I know it never happened. Shame.
As to the question, mid engine is potentially good and potentially unforgiving. Of the cars I've owned the FR ones have probably offered the best blend whilst the Elise offered the most, er..excitement.
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M.
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| Blarno wrote: | | BeN wrote: | MF, Toyota Previa?
But I think that's RWD. Not sure. |
It is RWD. The only mid-engined people carrier in the world... |
Wasn't the Nissan Serena mid engine too?
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cbeaks1
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Engine under the front seats as far as I can remember. I don't know whether that counts as mid.
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