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"him" · Last edited by "him" on Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:14 pm; edited 49 times in total

Please post your cars in gear times for the 30-60mph increment.

If everyone can time their car in 5th Gear, I think it will be best to cruise at a constant 30mph and then accelerate in 5th until 60mph is reached, rather than accelerate through 30mph from a lower speed. This will mean any turbo lag is recorded etc.

Feel free to repeat the test in other gears too, automatics without 'lockup' can go for a "through the gears" test.

Video evidence will be greatly appreciated, and will hopefully prevent any shouts of "bullshit" from the sidelines!

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Times 30-60mph (Petrol) - (Diesel)
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6th Gear

Twelfth Monkey - Audi RS4 - 9s
Martin - MINI Clubman Cooper S - 10s
Martin - BMW 130i M Sport - 10.9s

5th Gear

Twelfth Monkey - Audi RS4 - 6.7s
Martin - BMW 130i M Sport - 7.8s
ALF - Alfa 156 GTA SW - -8s
Guitar Zero - Volvo S60 D5 - 8s
franki68 - Audi R8 - 8s
Nice Guy Eddie - Golf GTi (Ed 30) - 8s
TimR - BMW M5 (E39) - 8+s
simonp - Renault Clio R27 - 8+s - Video
Martin - MINI Clubman Cooper S - 8.6s
Piers - BMW Compact 325ti (E46) - 9.3s
"him" - Saxo VTS - 10s - Video
Roadsterstu - Fiat Grande Punto T-Jet Sporting - 11s
Rodge - BMW 325i - 12s - Video
Matt - Peugeot 306 XSi 16V - 12s+
Boxer6 - Subaru Legacy 3.0R Spec B - 12.14s
TimR - Fiat Coupe Turbo - 13.2s
Andy C - Peugeot 306 D-Turbo - 14s+ - Video
Frank Bullitt - Audi A2 TDi (Remapped) - 16s - Video
Mike - Focus TDCi (Remapped) - 19s - Video
cbeaks1 - Fiesta TDCi - 21s
Apex Clipper - Focus RS - 22.6s

TimR - Transit 100 T350 LUTON - 22.6s

Andy C - Fiat Grande Punto 1.2 - 24s - Video

4th Gear

Dr. Hfuhruhurr - Porsche 911 GT3 - 3s
JohnC - BMW 335D Coupe - 4.9s
Guitar Zero - Volvo S60 D5 - 5s - Video
Twelfth Monkey - Audi RS4 - 5s
franki68 - Audi R8 - 6s
Nice Guy Eddie - Golf GTi (Ed 30) - 6s
Martin - MINI Clubman Cooper S - 6.3s
Martin - BMW 130i M Sport - 6.6s
Martin - Passat 2.0TDI Sport - 6.9s
TimR - BMW M5 (E39) - 7s
Spooner - Alfa 159 1.9 JTDm - 7.5s
Blarno - Renaultsport Clio 172 Cup - 8s - Video
"him" - Saxo VTS - 8s - Video
Apex Clipper - Focus RS - 8.1s
Andy C - Peugeot 306 D-Turbo - 8s+ - Video
TimR - Fiat Coupe Turbo - 8.4s
Frank Bullitt - Audi A2 TDi (Remapped) - 9s - Video
Mike - Focus TDCi (Remapped) - 9s - Video
Rodge - BMW 325i - 9s
Piers - BMW Compact 325ti (E46) - 9.1s
Andy C - Fiat Grande Punto 1.2 - 13s - Video
TimR - Transit 100 T350 LUTON - 15.3s

3rd Gear

Dr. Hfuhruhurr - Porsche 911 GT3 - 3s
JohnC - BMW 335D Coupe - 3.4s
Twelfth Monkey - Audi RS4 - 3.5s
Guitar Zero - Volvo S60 D5 - -4s - Video
franki68 - Audi R8 - 4s
ALF - Alfa 156 GTA SW - 4s+
Martin - MINI Clubman Cooper S - 4s
Apex Clipper - Focus RS - 4.5s
Nice Guy Eddie - Golf GTi (Ed 30) - 4.6s
Martin - BMW 130i M Sport - 4.7s
SpecB - Subaru Legacy 3.0R Spec B Manual Tourer (2nd/3rd) - 5s
TimR - BMW M5 (E39) - 5.2s
Martin - Passat 2.0TDI Sport - 5.3s
Spooner - Alfa 159 1.9 JTDm - 5.5s
"him" - Saxo VTS - 5.5s - Video
Piers - BMW 320d - 5.5s
Rodge - BMW 325i - 6s - Video
Roadsterstu - Fiat Grande Punto T-Jet Sporting - 6s
Piers - BMW Compact 325ti (E46) - 6s
Mike - Focus TDCi (Remapped) - 5.86s - Video (from another SLOWER run)
TimR - Fiat Coupe Turbo - 6.1s
Frank Bullitt - Audi A2 TDi (Remapped) - 7s - Video
DradusContact - Ford Puma 1.7 - 7s - Video
Jasper - Volkswagen Transporter Sportline 7s

Through the Gears/Kickdown (for Kraft etc.)

franki68 - Audi R8 - 2.3s
Twelfth Monkey - Audi RS4 (2nd) - 2.7ish s
TimR - BMW M5 (E39) - 3.4s
kraftwerk - Mercedes SL500 (R129) - 3.5s - Video
Apex Clipper - Focus RS (2nd) - 3.6s
Nice Guy Eddie - Golf GTi (Ed 30) (2nd) - 3.6
ALF - Alfa 156 GTA SW - -4s
simonp - Renault Clio R27 - -4s - Video
Martin - BMW 130i M Sport - -4s
TimR - Fiat Coupe Turbo - 4s
JohnC - BMW 335D Coupe (2nd/3rd) - 4s
SpecB - Subaru Legacy 3.0R Spec B Manual Tourer (2nd/3rd) - 4s
"him" - Saxo VTS (2nd/3rd) - 4.5s - Video
Rodge - BMW 325i (2nd/3rd) - 5s
Boxer6 - Subaru Legacy 3.0R Spec B (kickdown)- 5.12s
Piers - BMW Compact 325ti (E46) (2nd/3rd) - 5.2s
Mike - Focus TDCi (Remapped) (2nd/3rd) - 6s - Video
DradusContact - Ford Puma 1.7 (2nd) - 6s - Video
BeN - Toyota Corolla - 12s

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kraftwerk · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject:

So, no kickdown for autos, then?
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"him" · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject:

Matt · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject:

I'll attempt this later.
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needmorepower · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject:

I'll try on the way home tonight so unlikely to have video footage.

Mind, don't spose many will care enough about the time of an oil-burning lardy (and his car) to cry bullshit!
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TimR · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject:

Woo hoo I'll get to try the stopwatch feature on the BM.

Lost my digital watch so it'll be guesswork from a ticking second hand on the Fiat.

Blarno · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject:

If I can find a way of attaching my phone to my steering wheel, I'll give it a go too. Just tried it a few minutes agoa and it didn't take too long from 30-60 in 5th.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject:

My car and I are currently in different countries, but I'll do this as soon as I can. Might be interesting for those with six-speed 'boxes to do fifth and sixth for comparison. And Steve Steel can do it in seventh ...

Blarno · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject:

I'll try and be thorough and do it in 3rd, 4th and 5th.
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Apex clipper · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject:

Racing · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject:

Umm....can only do this anytime soon for the Alfa and I think I'll leave it to ALF or Gurney. I wouldn't like to try and hit 60mph in central Moscow whilst accurately timing myself and simultaneously coping with all the nutters driving around me.

Besides, the Mercedes only has four forward gears.
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"him" · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject:

Apex clipper · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject:

Rodge · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject:

Right, I did it on the way home. First in 5th, then in 3rd just to show the difference.

So, 192bhp, 5th, a camera phone and a straight level road in a 325:

Roughly 12 seconds

3rd gear halves that to about 6 seconds.

Apologies for the poor quality.
I'd have done it in 2nd but it only gets to about 56mph!
I love the sound of it!
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"him" · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject:

Frank Bullitt · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject:

30-60; my car won't really pull 30 in 5th so the time will be utterly shocking.

"him" · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject:

Matt · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject:

I didn't get to finish a run as the roads didn't allow it, but it seemed like it might take about 15-20 seconds. Fifth seems to pull better than fourth.

Next time I'm up Dartmoor, I'll try it as there's an ideal stretch of empty road out there.
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Star69 · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject:

The TDCi's torque could work in it's favour here.

Only problem is, it won't run in fifth at 30! Lowest it will pull from is 35. Turbo lag here we come...
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GonnaBreakABuggy · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject:

You'll all beat mine, I can't get 5th!
Or 4th.
Or 3rd........
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"him" · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject:

I have just posted my times...

My god it was slow in 5th!!!

30-60 (5th) - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mO1tnCrNRXk
30-60 (4th) - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmZt4607JM
30-60 (3rd) - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6yEKQiyb40Q
30-60 (2nd/3rd) - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C0k-E7fhsqM

And for "Apex Clipper", I did a 50-70 in 3rd ...[EDIT] Just noticed you said 30-70...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NCOBfbEFHoM

It was 4s! (over to the Focus)
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"him" · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject:

Apex clipper · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:13 am Post subject:

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"him" · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:16 am Post subject:

Apex clipper · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:20 am Post subject:

"him" · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:23 am Post subject:

Apex clipper · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:31 am Post subject:

Frank Bullitt · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:41 am Post subject:

BeN · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:06 am Post subject:

30-60mph means 50-100km/h. That's quite a task.

I know the Corolla can do quite well from 80-110km/h (the oft-mentioned 50-70mph run), but I'm not sure about 50-100.

No idea how I am going to do this alone in Singapore. The filming that is.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:31 am Post subject:

needmorepower · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:15 am Post subject:

Star69 · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:24 am Post subject:

"him" · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:19 am Post subject:

"him" · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:23 am Post subject:

Twelfth Monkey · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:34 am Post subject:

I was a little disappointed. Just over six seconds in 5th. Still, that's pulling from about 1350rpm, so it's barely got out of bed and the limiter in 5th (with speed limiter removed) would be 170+.

2nd is somewhere between 2.5 and 3.

Nick's GT3 should be comfortably faster, and the R8 is both a lighter and has shorter gearing.
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Gurney · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:45 am Post subject:

Will give it a go but will have to wait till Thursday. The GTA will easily pull 30-60 in fifth, wouldn't be a patch on what it would do in 3rd - maybe even second?

Suspect my car would be slower than ALF's, still a bit tight and I am not convinced that flappy paddle cars aren't generally slower though obviously won't affect this exercise as no changes involved.
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DradusContact · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:52 am Post subject:

Dang this looks like fun. Ill see if i can find a way to attach the camera to the dash somehow. Anyone know how to edit MP4 files?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:57 am Post subject:

Gurney, you should do the smart as well

"him" · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:11 am Post subject:

Gurney · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:20 am Post subject:

ALF · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:27 am Post subject:

I can't begin to imaging how you could time it with any degree of accuracy - I was going to say it needs a passenger, but then in a 156 the passenger would not be able to see anything. If I had the Stack timing gear I used to have on the Caterham, I'd play - that allowed two speed increments to be set (e.g. 0 and 60, or 30 and 70) then timed between them. Good fun - though my 0-60's were crap - the journo's must practice a lot!

Also, while I might trickle from 30-60 in 5th on some occasions, I'd never floor it - if wanting to go quickly it's just incompetent gear selection and a small throttle opening in a more appropriate gear would do the job much more effectively.

"him" · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:31 am Post subject:

Frank Bullitt · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:44 am Post subject:

Gurney · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject:

DradusContact · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject:

How is everyone getting round holding the camera?
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"him" · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject:

franki68 · Petrolhead Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 2382

Can I go back in time and use my 997tt for this ? I can't think of much that would beat that in this sense.
The M6 will be formidable through the gears as well

Humphrey The Pug · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject:

I'll try and remember to have a ago in my Scenic tonight on the way home
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Nice Guy Eddie · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject:

This was rather crudley timed this morning using my wristwatch.

30-60mph

2nd - 3.1
3rd - 3.9
4th - No time recorded as yet
5th - 8.0
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