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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Project Graham: The official motorforum track slag. RIP. Reply with quote

Check these babies out. Cobra Clubman seats, fixed backs on Nova subframes: £72. They are really light, too. Couple of fag burns but otherwise mint:

Also got a brand new pair of Sparco 3 point harnesses for £75 delivered. Considering they're over £40 each at Demon Tweeks, I've got a bargain there! Here they are, almost fully fitted into the car. Just wants a few bits of plating and welding to allow them to be bolted in:
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So far, this project has cost no more than the £300 I originally shelled out for the car. All these bits have been bought on the back of bits I've sold. This stripping out and modding lark is highly addictive, I only need a new steering wheel and the major modification work is done!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumper and headlights gone aswell?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I took them off to remove the aircon radiator. I haven't put them back in because I've still got to remove the aircon pump, which is right at the front of the engine and requires removal of the main radiator.

I'd make a fair bit of money for the bumper, though. It's a genuine Irmscher GSi jobby. About £400 new.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh. I quite like the Irmscher stuff. Not bad for a Vauxhall realy!

How much does all the air con gubbins actually weight then?

Are you weighing any of this stuff that comes out of Graham?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you keeping him road legal, or will he have to be trailered to and from tracks?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main weight in the aircon is the pump and the radiator, both of which are aluminium. The rad was only a couple of kilos. I won't save a huge amount by binning it, but I don't need it on a track car.

I haven't actually weighed all the bits, but I can safely say it's close to 200 kilos. The back seat alone was 50kg, easily. There's loads of shit you don't see, such as soundproofing foam, and that adds a fair chunk of lard.

Hopefully, I'll be able to get it on the weighbridge in the paddock at Oulton and I'll know how much it's lost. It did weigh 1430kg as standard.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bookatrack's 205 GTi hire cars got down to a ridiculous weight simply through stripping out the interiors and other non-essential kit. Well worth it for track use...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you keeping him road legal, or will he have to be trailered to and from tracks?


Keeping it road legal, hence the harnesses being EC approved and me welding great big plates in to bolt them down. I toyed with the idea of trailering, but I can't afford to buy a trailer and a tow car.

And I don't have the space!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping him road legal will mean that you get much more use out of him, too.

Excellent to see how it's all coming together. You'll have to let us know when Graham's track debut will be (assuming it'll be Oulton) so that we can come along and watch. I'll see if I can book my car on the same trackday and find out whether the Blarno/Graham combo can spank its Germanic behind. I'm hoping it's a dry day!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would guess that whatever the weather, the Porsche would tear me a new arsehole!

If I can, I'll try and sort one before Christmas.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good - we'll need a forum meet to see his first outing.

do you think Mrs. Alf might like to try the seats?
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Mrs ALF? I can't answer that one!

Jo (Mrs Blarno) might like them, however!


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new, smaller, steering wheel is now fitted. The cost? A princely £24 off fleabay, plus £40 for the boss adapter. It no longer has the horn in the centre push, and I will have to cancel the indicators myself, but that's no big deal. Looks quite good if I do say so myself:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you doing much work to the suspension/brakes? Looks like it will be a fun car - presume you are keeping the V6 relatively stock?
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Suspension and brakes are as they were when I bought the car. Brakes are standard, suspension is lowered and stiffened. I may fit some strut braces, but I'm doing it on the cheap. So far, my only outlay over the original purchase price has been £40 for the wheel boss and £10 for a new aux belt. Everything else has been bought with money made from selling bits of the interior, and there's still loads to sell.

Engine is standard apart from the cheapo cone filter that I had left over from the Escort and the full stainless, sounds awesome.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a lot more to come out of their yet!

Couple of kilos of wiring too.
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I think Audi will probably miss the option to review Blarno's track-day slag as the direction of interior design in the upcoming A4.

Very impressive - I wonder what a stripped-out A2 would weigh in at...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's a lot more to come out of their yet!

Couple of kilos of wiring too.


That's next, just waiting for the schematics so I know what can and can't be removed.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start the engine and cut wires until it goes off, then fix that one and keep going ;)
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Start the engine and cut wires until it goes off, then fix that one and keep going ;)

That sounds like one of my 'plans'...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may happen that way yet, Autodata is proving to be somewhat hard to get hold of. (At least an un-corrupt copy is).

I don't need that much wiring there: Only the fuel pump and lights at the back, fusebox, ECU and lights at the front. Trouble is, there's loads of wires, all intertwined and a fair chunk of them are the same colour!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Start the engine and cut wires until it goes off, then fix that one and keep going ;)


That's hilarious.

Sorry Blarno, I missed this, what's the engine?

Looks great going so far, I envy you slightly.

One day, I hope to do this sort of thing to a Transit.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I intend to do it to an old bus, you can pick up up for a few hundred these days.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. I'm gonna have the ultimate van...

"Wonder if I can get a bed in a Transit Connect..."

Blarno should've put this in Graham:



Shame it's a diesel.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Start the engine and cut wires until it goes off, then fix that one and keep going ;)

That sounds like one of my 'plans'...


Seems like you and Peugeot share the same design philosophy when it comes to electrics then!
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Start the engine and cut wires until it goes off, then fix that one and keep going ;)

That sounds like one of my 'plans'...


Seems like you and Peugeot share the same design philosophy when it comes to electrics then!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...

Should I be worried?

I very nice bloke called 'Serge' (Same name as one of the Le Mans engineers) did our car when it was on the wrong end of 2 tonnes of American steel. Didn't find anything wrong...

...Or was that anything?
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Sorry Blarno, I missed this, what's the engine?

Looks great going so far, I envy you slightly.

One day, I hope to do this sort of thing to a Transit.


2.5 V6. About 170 Bhp, hence why I've stripped it out. I can't afford any engine mods. Yet.

A V8 is planned if I suddenly find a magic money tree.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, a low-revving V6 kinda suits the cars character.

I asume in the front? What happened to the 'rear-engined Vectra' idea?
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Rear engine would be a nightmare. Not that trying to shoehorn a V8 in won't be without it's troubles.

I'm talking at least 5 years until any conversion takes place, when the little un is bigger and some pressure is taken off my bank account.

That's assuming I don't destroy it in the meantime.


It's not that low revving, by the way. 24 valve jobby, loves revs.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh...

Sounds like a decent engine.

Sorry about the questions, my last one, but what was the donor car?
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Well, if you want any headwork doing on it, you've only to drop it off...
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*edudl'iL wrote:
Oh...

Sounds like a decent engine.

Sorry about the questions, my last one, but what was the donor car?


Donor car? It's still a Vectra. All I've done is whip out all the useless stuff.




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Donor car? It's still a Vectra. All I've done is whip out all the useless stuff.

So, someone else is driving then?

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Charming!
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Oh buggery, sorry, I forgot your Vectra already had the V6...
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Finally finished removing the aircon today, replaced the auxillary belt and fitted the bonnet pins. This was not without it's problems: The bonnet decided to drop whilst I was drilling, luckily my head stopped it.


EDIT: Note the abscence of the most useless artifact on any car - the front fogs. Genuine GSi foggies go for £50 each new.......
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A man after my own heart, no windsrceen wipers. ;-)
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Only for the moment, I'm searching for a Citroen ZX to pilfer the wiper motor off: Cheap and effective single wiper conversion, slightly lighter too...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a CX or even Merc as an option.
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Don't Mercs have a ridiculously complicated cam to increase the sweep? I think the chances of finding a CX are pretty slim, too.
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You're right about the Merc, how about XM then? A few specialists around. Come to think, ZX is sounding like the best option, but just in case.
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Blarno wrote:
Only for the moment, I'm searching for a Citroen ZX to pilfer the wiper motor off: Cheap and effective single wiper conversion, slightly lighter too...

Is the wiper arm from an AX too short?
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I would have thought so, I used an AX motor and arm on my 205 and it was only just big enough for that.

Then again, I'm going to be using a Pug 405 wiper arm, as they have the screen washer built onto the arm.
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Dan wrote:
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Umm...



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Fiat Panda was another, though I am just listing cars with single wiper blades, we should start this in another thead really! My wine really is very good!
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I would have thought so, I used an AX motor and arm on my 205 and it was only just big enough for that.

I would worry about using a longer arm with the AX motor, as my AX used to just about drag its wiper across the screen at speed...

Does the wiper need to clear the entire screen, or could it be mounted eccentrically so it just cleared the drivers side?
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Set up like this little feller -



It looks fast even if it going to make feck all difference.
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Isn't it illegal for a wiper to park like that on a road car?
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As far as I'm aware, it must clear the entire screen, so it's gonna be a ZX wiper motor with a 405 wiper arm.

I thought it was illegal to have it parked central, too..
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