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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:32 pm    Post subject: Porsche 991.2 GT3  Reply with quote

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There is an EVO one, but it is presented by that Dan bloke so I didn't watch it.    
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The engine spec is incredible.

Just got email from dealer saying they wont have their allocation for a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just got email from dealer saying they wont have their allocation for a bit.

Did you send them your Downfall video?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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franki68 wrote:
Just got email from dealer saying they wont have their allocation for a bit.

Did you send them your Downfall video?


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I love it.

Would prefer silver wheels though
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love it but remains a rather pointless car if a normal punter can't buy one.
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I'm one the biggest 911 fans, really I am, but I wouldn't want that, in fact the front looks a little worse to me. I think the sweet spot is the GTS unless you want (can afford) the full nutter Turbo S. I see the GT3 as a wee bit pointless, the GTS has more than enough grunt, I'd wait for the GT3 RS replacement. Not the I wouldn't love to drive one, but I think if I was to own one I'd rather take the GTS
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If I were ever to own a 911, I would want it to be this one, with a manual gearbox.  Spot on, in my opinion.
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Just watched the Catchpole interview, bit too technical in places for me, but it sounds like it will be fantastic, especially the engine which is very similar to the one in the latest race cars.
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Tim wrote:
I love it.


Tim wrote:
Except, and this might come as a shock, I'm not keen on Porsches and don't want one or 'feel the love' at all



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evo says there's no production limit - good if it's true
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^ But it will only be produced for a limited time, so it's almost certainly not going to be the case that all orders from launch and before a given future date will be fulfilled.

Anyway, I've just built one on the configurator and sent the spec to my local OPC with a covering message, asking nicely about the possibility, however remote, of an allocation...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyway, I've just built one on the configurator and sent the spec to my local OPC with a covering message, asking nicely about the possibility, however remote, of an allocation...

Good luck, I hope you get one ...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^^^ But it will only be produced for a limited time, so it's almost certainly not going to be the case that all orders from launch and before a given future date will be fulfilled.

Anyway, I've just built one on the configurator and sent the spec to my local OPC with a covering message, asking nicely about the possibility, however remote, of an allocation...


What's your choice of spec? What are the essentials? And the colour?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a look last night and couldn't find it in the configurator?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had a look last night and couldn't find it in the configurator?


Click on any 911 ,then click on models on top left,use the scroll down and you will see the gt3.

Production will be around 3000 worldwide so uk will get 3-400

Dealers not given allocation yet ,mine estimates they will get about 13 as they did with last one.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I have the configurator in my favourites, but it's not listed if you access it that way.

125,398 in an acceptable spec and the finance numbers aren't too bad plus  60k residual value after 4 years looks very safe.  But even if I could get one, it would have to be an everyday car to make the man maths work, so it's a non starter.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a chat with my Porsche Collecting mate this morning. Apparently our local OPC took between 35 and 40 10K deposits yesterday for the car. Once all deposits are in they will then work out who gets a car. That's read as whos the most profitable. Its been hinted that if his GT4 goes back at what he paid for it , it would help his way into a car. Expect then a number of GT4 and Gen1 GT3's to hit the OPC network later this year.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
Had a chat with my Porsche Collecting mate this morning. Apparently our local OPC took between 35 and 40 10K deposits yesterday for the car. Once all deposits are in they will then work out who gets a car. That's read as whos the most profitable. Its been hinted that if his GT4 goes back at what he paid for it , it would help his way into a car. Expect then a number of GT4 and Gen1 GT3's to hit the OPC network later this year.



There seems to be some dealers taking deposits and some not,seemingly dependent on what group they are part of.
My opc had 20-30 letters of intent months back and supposedly cut the list down to 13 ,supposedly prioritising  non flippers and people who use the car . and good customers.
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Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
Had a chat with my Porsche Collecting mate this morning. Apparently our local OPC took between 35 and 40 10K deposits yesterday for the car. Once all deposits are in they will then work out who gets a car. That's read as whos the most profitable. Its been hinted that if his GT4 goes back at what he paid for it , it would help his way into a car. Expect then a number of GT4 and Gen1 GT3's to hit the OPC network later this year.


I find that rather unpalatable when he is being asked to trade in his GT4 at a price probably 15K/20K less than the market thinks it's worth. It just has to come back and bite them one day.
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Its one of those funny areas. They have a customer who bought a 918, GT3 RS and got allocated an R and sold the lot too a well known reseller and made a profit of around 800k on the lot. He asked for an allocation for the GT3 but was told that he wasn't in the running and to not bother sending in a deposit.

The dealers are guilty of the flipping as much as the punters but its a practice Ferrari have been involved in for years.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine came to just over 123k plus on the road costs, so probably about 126k given the new car taxation.

http://www.porsche.com/microsite/porsche-code/default.aspx?c=/PJLZZT20

My OPC called me today; they haven't received their official allocations yet but they said they expect to receive 8 cars in two batches of 4. I was politely told that it was very unlikely that I would be in the running for a car, but 'never say never'. I asked them to add me to their list for the next GT4 if I wasn't on it already.
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Martin wrote:
Thanks. I have the configurator in my favourites, but it's not listed if you access it that way.

125,398 in an acceptable spec and the finance numbers aren't too bad plus 60k residual value after 4 years looks very safe. But even if I could get one, it would have to be an everyday car to make the man maths work, so it's a non starter.


Assuming you have garage/driveway space and adequate parking arrangements at work, there is absolutely no reason why a well-specified 991.2 GT3 could not be an everyday car.
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I simply refuse to beg for a car. And you guys should too.
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I'm certainly not begging.  I just politely asked the question.  Besides, I have some very lovely steeds to play with and I certainly won't at all feel hard done by!
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Maybe my definition of begging is wider than yours, but if I see a new car that I like, and I express interest to my dealer, I expect "yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir", not "oh, if you're very lucky, we might manage to get you a slot".

The blame goes all the way up - Porsche for limiting the numbers; the dealers, for playing their silly games; and the customers, for allowing themselves to be taken in.
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It's a tricky one if you want one purely from a driving rather than 'investment' perspective, given that Porsche will effectively limit production.

Anyway, I'm more a Caymanista than a Neun-elfer so I'll happily wait for the next GT4 if it's actually a car I would want to swap the current one for.
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Hoping to hear one way or another next day or so.

If not it's a gts ,although I will try a mclaren  570 before committing .
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Maybe my definition of begging is wider than yours, but if I see a new car that I like, and I express interest to my dealer, I expect "yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir", not "oh, if you're very lucky, we might manage to get you a slot".

The blame goes all the way up - Porsche for limiting the numbers; the dealers, for playing their silly games; and the customers, for allowing themselves to be taken in.


+1 to all that. Not that I can afford one anyway!
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Email from dealer ,they are getting 7 cars this year ,I am on a shortlist of 13
Sales guy says the chief exec of the group is going though the applications deciding who gets based on history etc which is bad news as I have only bought 1 car from them .

On the positive side that means if they get another 7 next year I should hopefully get,but I am now treating it as not going to happen.
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Is that a nonced-up 991?

Yeah. Great. (Shuffles feet and looks at the floor to avoid eye contact with mentler)

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Is that a nonced-up 991?

Yeah. Great. (Shuffles feet and looks at the floor to avoid eye contact with mentler)



It's ultra nonced-up,picnic table on back ffs
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I'm gonna wait for the RS....
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I think the RS is overkill and the GT3 is the sweet spot of the 911 range if you can live with the firmer ride.  Otherwise it's a GTS of some description (4GTS for me).
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2 GTS Manual for me, just add the leather interior and a couple of other options and it's perfect.
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franki68 wrote:
Email from dealer ,they are getting 7 cars this year ,I am on a shortlist of 13
Sales guy says the chief exec of the group is going though the applications deciding who gets based on history etc which is bad news as I have only bought 1 car from them .

On the positive side that means I can look at the McLaren!


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When a volume manufacturer starts rationing models, it seems something is very wrong to me
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A naturally aspirated six that revs until 9,000 rpm. Yes please!!!!
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A naturally aspirated six that revs until 9,000 rpm. Yes please!!!!


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Stuntman wrote:
Mine came to just over 123k plus on the road costs, so probably about 126k given the new car taxation.

http://www.porsche.com/microsite/porsche-code/default.aspx?c=/PJLZZT20

My OPC called me today; they haven't received their official allocations yet but they said they expect to receive 8 cars in two batches of 4. I was politely told that it was very unlikely that I would be in the running for a car, but 'never say never'. I asked them to add me to their list for the next GT4 if I wasn't on it already.


A blue Porsche, who'd have one of them?!     Looks good in blue with the grey wheels.
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I do really like Sapphire Blue.  If not, I'd choose GT Silver with the same wheels.

My local dealership currently has an 991 GT3 RS and a Carrera GT for sale in the showroom, both in GT Silver.  Lovely!
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I definitely prefer the blue. My comment was absolutely tongue in cheek!
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him wrote:
DriveTribe Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHFSsdqLntw&t=0s

There is an EVO one, but it is presented by that Dan bloke so I didn't watch it.


Is there any Geneva walk around stuff by anyone?
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PhilD wrote:
him wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHFSsdqLntw&t=0s

There is an EVO one, but it is presented by that Dan bloke so I didn't watch it.


Is there any Geneva walk around stuff by anyone?


Forget that, found one.

https://youtu.be/5xn8OVlcz5U

I used to like Catchpole's but Matt Prior will do nicely.
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If you've got over 2 hours:
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Manual won't be until next year, which sounds to me as if they're trying to put people off. Though the sales guy I spoke to said he'd want a manual. It is an utterly fabulous car up close and personal, I have to say.
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Still no news for me.

But I really want this car badly,AP has come out and said its the greatest road engine they have ever made ..better than the carrera GT .

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