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DetmoldDick
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Please help my daughter. Reply with quote

I am not normally one to beg for pity but if anyone can help I would be really grateful.

My daughter is having great difficulty finding a job experience placement from University. (Perhaps not helped by the present finance crisis). She is looking for something in the entertainment industry. Preferably starting in Feb 2010 for a duration of at least 20 weeks. It does not have to be paid work, although this would of course be welcomed. Her preference is also Manchester but that is not a must.

She is interested in helping with the organisation of events, market research, marketing and a bit of accounting.

She is fluent in English and German, good in French, beginner in Dutch and very basic in Spanish. She is a hard worker and always gives her all in everything she puts her hand to.

Any help, direct or indirect is most welcome.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't offer any help, but wish best of luck. You'd imagine in a climate like this, companies would be happy for people on placements to do work for them with little or no pay. Bonkers.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't offer any direct help, but I reckon kraftwerk might be worth a PM, if he's still about.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuntman wrote:
Can't offer any direct help, but I reckon kraftwerk might be worth a PM, if he's still about.


Not seen him around here for ages, but he is on Facebook a lot.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies guys. I have just pm'd Kraft and hope for a positive reply from him.
Fingers crossed.

Boxer6, are you in contact with Kraft? If so would it be possible to point him towards the fact that I have pm'd him?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help my daughter. Reply with quote

DetmoldDick wrote:
I am not normally one to beg for pity but if anyone can help I would be really grateful.

My daughter is having great difficulty finding a job experience placement from University. (Perhaps not helped by the present finance crisis). She is looking for something in the entertainment industry. Preferably starting in Feb 2010 for a duration of at least 20 weeks. It does not have to be paid work, although this would of course be welcomed. Her preference is also Manchester but that is not a must.

She is interested in helping with the organisation of events, market research, marketing and a bit of accounting.

She is fluent in English and German, good in French, beginner in Dutch and very basic in Spanish. She is a hard worker and always gives her all in everything she puts her hand to.

Any help, direct or indirect is most welcome.


I can't help directly I'm afraid (we've stopped graduate programmes as well) but I can't help but think that is an odd combination and perhaps a lack of focus might be confusing people.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DetmoldDick wrote:

Boxer6, are you in contact with Kraft? If so would it be possible to point him towards the fact that I have pm'd him?


Done.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Please help my daughter. Reply with quote

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
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I can't help directly I'm afraid (we've stopped graduate programmes as well) but I can't help but think that is an odd combination and perhaps a lack of focus might be confusing people.


Thanks for the advice, I shall pass it on. I think that any real job is unlikely to require such a diverse range of aspects and would indeed be more focussed on one area.  I think she is just trying to cover all aspects she has been taught.
Maybe it is me who has not properly understood her.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boxer6 wrote:
DetmoldDick wrote:

Boxer6, are you in contact with Kraft? If so would it be possible to point him towards the fact that I have pm'd him?


Done.


Thanks for that. It's appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: Please help my daughter. Reply with quote

DetmoldDick wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
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I can't help directly I'm afraid (we've stopped graduate programmes as well) but I can't help but think that is an odd combination and perhaps a lack of focus might be confusing people.


Thanks for the advice, I shall pass it on. I think that any real job is unlikely to require such a diverse range of aspects and would indeed be more focussed on one area.  I think she is just trying to cover all aspects she has been taught.
Maybe it is me who has not properly understood her.


I can see the problem - I'm guessing business studies.

I did that and covered lots of bases, ironically the more senior I got the more useful my degree has become, but less useful in my starting job than plain common sense.

I'd recommend she decides which area (specific) she most wants to work in when she graduates and really focus on that so that the experience she gains is relevant when applying for jobs post university.

I'd advise not getting too hung up on what industry as that will make it harder to find work.

In terms of getting a job then she needs a list of target companies and then right to the most senior person within that discipline saying why she'd love to work from them for free, then followed up with calling until you reach the person.

I'd think getting paid placement work will be nye on impossible - the economic climate, plus February is an odd time to start, most companies who plan for paid placements would have people start August/Sept I'd think.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Please help my daughter. Reply with quote

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
I'd recommend she decides which area (specific) she most wants to work in when she graduates and really focus on that so that the experience she gains is relevant when applying for jobs post university.

I would certainly echo this - the company where I did my placement offered me a job on graduation. Look at it from their point of view - someone they know from the basis of an interview or selection day, versus someone who's worked with them for six months, who they know is good, and fits in.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Please help my daughter. Reply with quote

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
I'd recommend she decides which area (specific) she most wants to work in when she graduates and really focus on that so that the experience she gains is relevant when applying for jobs post university.

I would certainly echo this - the company where I did my placement offered me a job on graduation. Look at it from their point of view - someone they know from the basis of an interview or selection day, versus someone who's worked with them for six months, who they know is good, and fits in.


That's what happened with probably 50% of the people on my course, the placement year was almost seen as a year's trial prior to getting a graduate job.

Oddly I actually was sponsored through uni which meant not just a placement year (spent in 4 different departments) but also paid placements during summer holidays as well.

Do any companies still do that kind of thing?

It seemed common place amongst engineering companies at the time (I worked for an Aerospace company though in a business studies stream). It was a good way of getting good experience plus earning well while studying, plus the benefit of living in Cheltenham with like minded students when not away at Uni. I just never hear of that kind of thing anymore?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sister did a placement with Mcdonalds head office in London for a year.  She loved it, they where impressed with her too, offered her a job to stay on but she decided to finish her degree, now shes finished with a 2:1 in martketing and cant find a job!

I know its london but she got paid £15k to do it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would they have offered her a job post degree qualification? That's what generally happens.

I'd hate to be a uni leaver right now, graduate recruitment seems to be first thing that stops in a recession.

Although most people I graduated with (91) got jobs, some of them had their start dates deferred. M&S offered jobs to people in the january with an august start then wrote to them asking them to start a year later but offering them £3k for that year's gap - most took the money and went travelling secure in the knowledge they had a job to come back to. People working for my company the year after me (sponsored so 4 yrs "employment") were made redundant the month after they started work.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She left just before this credit crunch, couldnt of timed it worse really.  Im not sure if they offered her a job at the end but i doubt it as she would have gone back if she could.  She has spoke to them but they havent got a space at the minute.  She designed some of the happy meal boxes, went to the premier of 'bee movie' and was out almost every night on the tiles all charged to expenses.  And you get a discount card!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the  tips and your concerns. Special thanks to Boxer6, Chris has contacted me with a lead for my daughter to follow up.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DetmoldDick wrote:
Thanks for the  tips and your concerns. Special thanks to Boxer6, Chris has contacted me with a lead for my daughter to follow up.

Cheers


Happy to help. Hope it works out for her.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DetmoldDick wrote:
Thanks for the  tips and your concerns. Special thanks to Boxer6, Chris has contacted me with a lead for my daughter to follow up.

Cheers


Pleased it's looking promising, if anyone can help with the Entertainment industry it'd be Chris.

Anyone know what he's up to? Can't remember the last time he posted - I'm missing the regular changes in cars
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