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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: One day I hope to be mature enough not to TLGP...  Reply with quote

...becasue today is not that day.

I was first up at the lights, dual carriageway.  I'd been in the overtaking lane lining up to pass a lorry, which got through before the lights changed.  Not wishing to appear the superior-minded dickhead, I moved into the left hand lane.

The only other vehicle to appear before the lights changed was a small, silver van, which chose the overtaking lane.

I tried to think mature thoughts, but he was inching forwards, further and further...

The rest, like my aspirations of growing up any time soon, is history.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bloke in a 318i tried it on with me the other day at the lights by Kidlington airfield, going towards Woodstock on the A44. Clearly the protagonists were more closely matched than RS4 v van, but nevertheless a 318 is never going to beat a 325 in a straight line, as I was able to demonstrate.  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the van actually attempt a full-bore start, or was the driver just goading you into going for it?

I'd have done the same as you!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine the temptation on a bike... I had such an occasion early on Sunday morning; me on the 'Blade, he in a current-shape boggo Civic. The difference in 0-60 is what? Three-and-a-half secs for the 'Blade; 10 secs for the Civic?

I proceeded along lane three of the A406, coming up behind a dawdling Hyundai, or something. Matey boy in the Civic, after a while, closed ever closer to my behind. Lanes two and one were empty, but Hyund-guy was oblivious to my presence despite flashing of lights. I had to resort to gesturing wildly 'Move the fuck over!' Meantime, Civ-prick has nipped up the inside (something I try never to do) and re-entered lane three ahead of Hyund-guy, for some reason.

Of course, once I got past Hynd-guy, I got Civ-prick in my sights, smoked his silver ass, and then some, putting some rad air between us despite he frantically  thrashing his motor. He had been good enough to move over to lane two, mind.

Gets the juices going, I must say.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I whitnessed TGLP this morning. 130i (the 3 doors edition with the multispoke wheels, very nice) pulls up at lights in the nearside lane. Vectra comes up behind and swerves into the overtaking lane at the last minute. The lights turn to red and the Vectra, clearly trying, is left to look at the behind of the 130 zooming off into the distance.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love following a fastish bike along a twisty road - making sure I don't get too close behind the rider on the entry into corners, of course.  I find that I can usually make inroads under braking and turn-in, and the bike then pulls it all back on the straights.  If the road's moderately twisty it can be quite an even match.  If it's quite straight and bone dry, I'm toast.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A bloke in a 318i tried it on with me the other day at the lights by Kidlington airfield, going towards Woodstock on the A44. Clearly the protagonists were more closely matched than RS4 v van, but nevertheless a 318 is never going to beat a 325 in a straight line, as I was able to demonstrate.  


Someone once tried that on me at the same lights, when I was in the Jaguar. Trouble was, he was driving the roughest looking Fiesta Mk II in Oxfordshire. It took him all the way to the speed camera in Woodstock to catch up with me, where he insisted on driving within a nanometer of my back bumper.  

Nothing wrong with the occaisonal TLGP, 12th. Just think, you were doing a service to anyone within earshot of the growling V8.    I am sure that most of us would have done the same.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a good race in my Elise once with a girl biker at work. She out accelerated me on the straights (obviously) but through the twisties she was massively in my way. She wouldn't believe me but she was.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I love following a fastish bike along a twisty road - making sure I don't get too close behind the rider on the entry into corners, of course.  I find that I can usually make inroads under braking and turn-in, and the bike then pulls it all back on the straights.  If the road's moderately twisty it can be quite an even match.  If it's quite straight and bone dry, I'm toast.


Yeah, pretty much any sports 600 or above will make toast of any car - save for something very light and very expensive - on any decently lengthy straight. But motorcycles just don't have the cornering ability of well-handling cars. The motorcyclist would need to be world class to do away with even an average wheelman.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one the other week - not as exciting perhaps, but a little boy in his Saxo VTR was out-performed from the lights by a diesel supermini with a couple of suits in the front.  Had my passenger known what I was going to do, he'd have pulled a moonie  

Saxo-boy will have been crying into his Stella that night...
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Ahh the TLGP. Running late this morning for a meeting so took the Merc (normally strictly only partners are allowed to park at the office but the chaps in the garage like Russian vodka so I can get away with it from time to time).

Homey in the black Touran on Blackfriars Bridge never stood a chance, despite his eagerness.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to occasionaly see a cerbera on my way to uni a few years ago.  A couple of times i was sat behind him waiting at the lights, and my car (a humble 1.4 escort) would rumble with the vibrations of it.  When the lights turned green he was litterally a spot on the horizon within seconds.

The beauty of the puma is most people think its going to be a 1.4 like a tigra when in fact its decent off the line.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did the van actually attempt a full-bore start, or was the driver just goading you into going for it?

I'd have done the same as you!


Oh, he went for it.  Sap!

I agree about the pleasure to be had in following a non-mental biker.  The fastest I've ever gone was in convoy.  I don't know how big the bikes were (my instinct says fair, but I may well be wrong), but once into silly straight line speeds, I seemed to be able to gradually reel them in.  Who knows?
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Whenever I look longingly at a TVR I remember my little Elan SE being passed by two in convoy on the M1. A few minutes later I passed them on the hard shoulder, one or even possibly both having expired.

Whilst on the subject of British exotica, I remember being behind a Noble M12 in my Boxster once, the drama that I witnessed through the twisties was intense as was his take off from a junction. My own progress matched his but was much less "visible." I know which I prefer.
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When I had my Fiesta, It had a habit of cutting out when idling, so I used to rev it while at the lights. Some lads arrived beside me in a Civic and thought I was up for it, probably looked like that from the outside, but When the lights changed, he dropped the clutch and stalled it. I coasted away laughing.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless I end up alongside a GTR, most TGLPs are a formality for me. I usually wait until green (the opposition invariably launching on amber) and then humiliate them utterly. I'll also confess to considerably immaturity out of the toll gates at the Dartford crossing ...
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I was quite surprised at how much poke a Mercedes E320 Diesel has from the line.

I had only just got my car and so didn't venture above 4000rpm but he managed to keep alongside up to the speed limit before I stopped at the limit and he went on to at least double it the prat.
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When I had my Fiesta, It had a habit of cutting out when idling, so I used to rev it while at the lights. Some lads arrived beside me in a Civic and thought I was up for it, probably looked like that from the outside, but When the lights changed, he dropped the clutch and stalled it. I coasted away laughing.


I love it when that happens. Especially when I was in the E36 and a chav-girl Saxo did the same thing and I wasn't even attempting to try. My passengers guffawed.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I NEVER TLGP - whatwould be the point, in a C1 diesel? Have been known to in the past, of course!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:( I want to be able to TLGP, alas, nothing that I could beat is driven by someone who would try.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll also confess to considerably immaturity out of the toll gates at the Dartford crossing ...


Ha ha - THE highlight of my drive home - smothering those booths in diesel fumes.

I still enjoy a bit of TLGP although I have to pick my adversaries carefully. What I've done before, often,is let, for instance, a diesel A4 pull in front a bit and then see if I can hang on to it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I very rarely TLGP in earnest - in fact I can't remember having to have done so yet in my car.  I'm usually happy to let someone zip past at the lights if I know I can overtake them safely a bit later if I'm in a hurry.  

However, I did once nail an absolutely perfect getaway from the lights in the M3 once, with me in lane one and someone in something quite quick (can't remember what it was) in lane two and definitely trying hard.  The only other time I tried it in the M3 I got way too much wheelspin, and lots of tyresmoke in the cabin
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There aren't that many traffic lights on my normal driving routes which lend themselves to TLGP and those that are are within half a mile of where I live so my engine is usually still cold. On the rare occasions when the opportunity arises I generally use only enough revs to get ahead, knowing that, if I wanted to, I have plenty in recerve.
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I must admit i do sometimes quite enjoy pretending to take part in the TLGP with some scrote in a clapped out motor that you know you will dust and then not bothering, i'll move off sharpish to draw them in then ease off and let them thrash away with what sounds like metal on metal interaction from their engine, it's like teasing a monkey at the zoo.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stuntman wrote:
I love following a fastish bike along a twisty road - making sure I don't get too close behind the rider on the entry into corners, of course.  I find that I can usually make inroads under braking and turn-in, and the bike then pulls it all back on the straights.  If the road's moderately twisty it can be quite an even match.  If it's quite straight and bone dry, I'm toast.


Yeah, pretty much any sports 600 or above will make toast of any car - save for something very light and very expensive - on any decently lengthy straight. But motorcycles just don't have the cornering ability of well-handling cars. The motorcyclist would need to be world class to do away with even an average wheelman.


The last race I had was in the turbo against a superbike of some sort,the road had quite short straights and the turbo was able to pullout a convincing lead.

What always amazes me about tlgp's is how rarely it happens with a car of similar ability ,9/10 times its scooby drivers who want to race.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The difficult ting with TLGP is where do you stop?  I normally ease off at the speed limit, and if i am in the lead i count that as a win.  Sometimes though, the other participant will carry on accelerating, but its too late, ive already won.
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I confess I've never, ever taken part in a TLGP. It just never occurs to me. Presumably loads of chavs/reps/white van men etc have drawn up next to me wanting to have a go, but I never notice. All I ever focus on when driving is taking care of the car and avoiding the morons. I don't really like caning it away from a standstill because it gives the transmission a hard time.

The nearest I've come to it is the highly enjoyable pastime of trying to keep up with a faster car on a great driving road.
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Conversely, I often like to appear as if I'm about to nail it away from the lights, then, when green illuminates, gently sashay off like a pensioner on Mogadon, leaving the Subariste to look an utter cock.
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Conversely, I often like to appear as if I'm about to nail it away from the lights, then, when green illuminates, gently sashay off like a pensioner on Mogadon, leaving the Subariste to look an utter cock.


Yes, that is fun. I tend do to that in the Z1, not least because the 4 exhausts, purposeful sound and exotic styling are writing cheques the engine can't quite deliver when it comes to straight-line speed!
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The difficult ting with TLGP is where do you stop?  I normally ease off at the speed limit, and if i am in the lead i count that as a win.  Sometimes though, the other participant will carry on accelerating, but its too late, ive already won.


I find that when around the limit, the gentlest tap of brake (so that lights illuminate but there's no retardation), is enough to bow out whilst having clearly won.  By which I don't mean to brake-test them.  They are rarely near enough for this to be an issue.

But I wish I was mature enough not to bother.  It may never happen...
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I'm afraid I display the same levels of immaturity - happened on Sunday at traffic lights onto a dual carriageway - Volvo T5 driver thought he'd have a go - by the time I realised what he was doing he was already ahead, but still I couldn't resist taking the bait and was well ahead of him at 80 at which point I eased off and he passed me probably nearing 100 which was too much for the road and traffic we were approaching.

In my mind I thought I had shown him he shouldn't have tried, but I bet he thought he had won.
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Conversely, I often like to appear as if I'm about to nail it away from the lights, then, when green illuminates, gently sashay off like a pensioner on Mogadon, leaving the Subariste to look an utter cock.

Yes, that is fun. I tend do to that in the Z1, not least because the 4 exhausts, purposeful sound and exotic styling are writing cheques the engine can't quite deliver when it comes to straight-line speed!

From my experience in the passenger seat, I'd say it would keep most things honest from 0 - 30 mph. And the noise is worth it every time.

As to who wins a TLGP, I'd say whoever reaches the speed limit first ...
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I had a current 'fatboy' Clio hotshoe attempt to barge in to the turning-right lane from the left as I joined a roundabout this evening.  He pulled in behind me in the aggressive manner of the thwarted (i.e. sharply and as soon as your bumper is past), and was then amazingly easily to leave behind, even a gear higher than optimum and avoiding too high revs as the car was cold.

I reckon Blarno's is likely to be a far punchier drive as it doesn't carry the excess.
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Being a yoof I naturally enjoy playing this game and play it most days at the toll boothes for the Tamar Bridge.

I haven't mastered it in the TDCI yet as the clutch/engine combo is complteley different - the TDDI was simply revs, dump clutch, go.  Didn't really wheel spin unless it was very wet.

And Yes I admit into goading quicker machinery into giving it the berries - its rude if they don't.  Normally gives the hint away when I drop the window mind...

Best one for me though was playing TLGP in mums Vitara 2.0 V6 against some chavs in a drain-piped clad Corsa whom had been glued to my bumper.  Mum wasn't overly impressed though did comment afterwards that 'this thing has some poke in it'.  Oh I left the chavs somewhere back on the river bank trying...all I could hear was droning exhaust as they tried desperately to keep up.
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Yes, that is fun. I tend do to that in the Z1, not least because the 4 exhausts, purposeful sound and exotic styling are writing cheques the engine can't quite deliver when it comes to straight-line speed!

From my experience in the passenger seat, I'd say it would keep most things honest from 0 - 30 mph. And the noise is worth it every time.


Well, thanks! Glad you think so!
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And you'll more than likely be looking more stylish than the other car too!

Nottingham has a lot of two lane traffic lights that merge into one lane after you clear them, and I must admit I do regularly make the most of the Ka's nippiness - and the fact that most people don't try that hard, whereas the Ka seems to encourage it.

This is all to pretty low terminal speeds though, inevitably all you are doing is racing to be first to sit in the next traffic queue. What really rips my tits though, is when the road narrows to a single lane and you slow down to join the queue, the muppet who was alongside my rear wheel instead of slowing and gracefully moving in behind me decides to gun his car along side mine and then tries to squeeze me into the kerb.

Literally giving me the choice of crunching my car into his (usually an 'executive' BMW or 4x4, sorry for the cliche but it usually is ), the kerb or coming to a dead stop to let him in.

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Literally giving me the choice of crunching my car into his (usually an 'executive' BMW or 4x4, sorry for the cliche but it usually is ), the kerb or coming to a dead stop to let him in.

Twattery. A sea of twattery.


Hold your ground man!  I always do, the BMW will always give up, as his car is probably worth 10 times what mine is.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also probably a company car...

The last offender was a pimped up Hummer with blacked out windows, this being Nottingham I decided to let him go...

A few years ago a 5-series did the behind-alongside-push-in thing, and then as we crawled along in stop start traffic he stuck as close to the white line as he could to prevent the motorbike behind him (that I'd cheerfully moved over to let pass - more power to you fella) overtaking him.

Eventually there was a gap in the on-coming traffic so the biker could overtake... but not before taking enough time to extend a hand over the BMW's bonnet and give a slow 'Gareth Hunt' gesture to the driver. Class.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just remembered a very classic TLGP moment I had a few weeks ago.

Me lane two - Nissan Micra lane one.  BMW 325ti Compact 'Nail' edition behind me.
Red, Amber, Green...Goooooooooooooooooo smoked all three in my then nail.  Quite literally.  Micra gone by the time second was selected and BMW dissapeared in clouds of soot.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A while back i had a 3 series trying to barge in next to me.  I held fast, mostly because he couldnt even be bothered indicating, and i really hate that.  He got literally within an inch before stopping, then doing that aggressive tuck in thing behind me and giving me the finger.  I wish he could understand why i didnt let him in, instead of getting angry.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that these days it's a stupid thing to do (but I can't help myself sometimes) but if that had happened to me in traffic I'd have blocked him, got out and asked him to get out of the car and make that gesture.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an impromptu TLGP in the Focus a few years ago. Some guy in a Passat TDi was actually in front of me in a single lane of traffic and he was checking out his mirrors and floored it when the lights changed. My Focus was reasonably quick, could hit 60 in about 8 secs, and I pulled away in second and once over 2,000 rpm, hauled him in at a rate that scared the life out of him. Had I used first gear, I'd have been past him in no time.

One thing I like about my current car is that it looks no different from the usual 316/318 (except that it deserves the chrome grille ), so others are usually surprised that I have little difficulty leaving them behind.

Except of course for the bloke in the S4 a few months ago. I left a toll booth before him and he was latched onto my rear bumper in seconds.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete wrote:
:( I want to be able to TLGP, alas, nothing that I could beat is driven by someone who would try.


I'd give you a race....mind you, I'd need to loose weight first, to improve the power-to-weight ration of my C1.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyhook wrote:
What really rips my tits though, is when the road narrows to a single lane and you slow down to join the queue, the muppet who was alongside my rear wheel instead of slowing and gracefully moving in behind me decides to gun his car along side mine and then tries to squeeze me into the kerb.

Classic example on the A13 yesterday - the outside lane coned off for roadworks, everyone merging quite well apart from the cock in the Merc who went sailing past in the rapidly disappearing third lane. I was just watching him thinking "where are you going to go now huh?". Where he did go was into the space I opened up by dropping back to avoid the inevitable. Though if I'd been in a 4x4 with bullbars I might have been tempted to keep going and bounce him over the cones.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One I also enjoy is the dash from the toll kiosks at the Severn Bridge.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One I also enjoy is the dash from the toll kiosks at the Severn Bridge.

What I didn't enjoy was getting stung by a mobile camera van in the 50 mph section approaching the toll. There's a service bridge over the main carriageway where they often sit - watch out!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll still be TLGP'ing when I'm driving a mobility scooter!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure that RS4 vs. Van really counts as a TLGP!!!  Although if your 'opponent' thinks that they stand a chance and actually go for it, then it counts!

I like the type of contest where you set off slightly slower so they think they are pulling it off and then as you are about 1/2 way through 2nd gear, you put your foot down and disappear into the distance!

The ones where they genuinely think they stand a chance are the best.  I was on a dual carriageway that had quite a few set of lights a few weeks ago there was someone in the latest shape (have they stopped selling that now) Celica who was weaving from lane to lane to try and get the advantage at each sets of lights.  It was a T190, so reasonably quick.  I lined up behind him at one set of lights and then let him pull away as the next set were just changing to red and not that far away.  I then went to the inside at the next set and nailed it when the lights went green.  

He overdid it a bit as I could hear the tyres squealing as he set off, but even so I was genuinely surprised by the gap that opened up He was a little more surprised judging by the look on his face as he scrutinised my car at the next set of lights!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:

The ones where they genuinely think they stand a chance are the best.  I was on a dual carriageway that had quite a few set of lights a few weeks ago there was someone in the latest shape (have they stopped selling that now) Celica who was weaving from lane to lane to try and get the advantage at each sets of lights.  It was a T190, so reasonably quick.  I lined up behind him at one set of lights and then let him pull away as the next set were just changing to red and not that far away.  I then went to the inside at the next set and nailed it when the lights went green.  

He overdid it a bit as I could hear the tyres squealing as he set off, but even so I was genuinely surprised by the gap that opened up He was a little more surprised judging by the look on his face as he scrutinised my car at the next set of lights!!


A mate of mine has one of those and I reckon my car is easily as quick,  more so at lower speeds( must be my extra 2bhp   ) so yours should be comfortably quick enough to beat it. The T190 really only comes to life from 6,000-8,500 rpm so probably not great at standing starts.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It certainly was quicker and that was at fairly low speeds (up to 60/70).  It's once you get to 80-90+, that the performance of the 130 really starts to impress!

The Celica had a large exhaust and you could hear it above the engine/exhaust in my car (when I was following it) when the revs got up towards the top end of the range.

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