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Turbonutter · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:22 am Post subject: New EVO writer

Anyone who likes to read Chris Harris' ramblings will be pleased to know he'll be in EVO soon as a writer. They've got a new editor in the shape of Nick Trott as well.

Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:24 am Post subject:

Excellent, I'm glad he's not lost to the world of car mags. They should give him a monthly column.

Turbonutter · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:34 am Post subject:

Pkh72 · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:26 am Post subject:

This is good news.

Guitar Zero · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:38 am Post subject:

Nick Trott started his career in Max Power I think

I was quite surprised to see he had got a proper job with " Car " magazine a few years back. I think his first piece was on a luxo barge group test - X350 vs ze Germans.

If you've ever seen the standards of journalism in Max Power, you would understand my surprise. The last copy of MP that I ever read had a " target practise " section that consisted of pictures of naked women with target markers covering their flapsicles - the idea being that you try to " land a wad " in the bullseye.
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simonp · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:55 am Post subject:

Talking of Max Pooer, I noticed one of its clones was moving away from the tits and boyracer zone and becoming a little more serious. I think it was Redline?

Good news about Mr Harris. evo now need to establish a decent website, rather than the Auto Express clone they have now, and get him doing vids again!

Turbonutter · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject:

Twelfth Monkey · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:12 pm Post subject:

I found Harris laughably inconsistent in a good many areas. Still enjoyable to read on most occasions, but not one whose views I'd take at face value.
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simonp · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject:

Turbonutter · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject:

Nice Guy Eddie · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject:

Great news for Harris but what about Meadon and Jethro the original Evo bods? It looks like Harris has led them away to a failed venture and then taken there jobs. I like Harris alot but Meadons article on the Pikes Peak was the best piece I've ever read.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:12 am Post subject:

I can't imagine Meaden will be out of work for too long. Not just a great writer, but a great driver too - as Eddie says, great to have articles about a race by someone taking part - he also did a great piece on the Ring 24 Hours.

Turbonutter · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:12 am Post subject:

TimR · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:45 am Post subject:

Not sure about Nick Trott.

He's still writing for CAR in the current mag.
His long-termer review on a BMW Z4 irritated me because in it he criticises the sport setting for dampers on his previous longtermer - an Audi TT diesel - saying it's like removing them altogether.
Funny how he never mentioned that when he had the car, which is one of my bugbears about motoring journos in general.

No mention of Jethro coming back to EVO?
Were bridges burned?

Turbonutter · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:50 am Post subject:

Matt · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject:

I bought Redline today. If you like performance-related tuning, it's a good read. Pleasantly surprised.
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Turbonutter · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject:

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Turbonutter · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject:

simonp · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject:

I still have the cheap wallet somewhere that was a gift with one of the first issues (maybe even issue 1?)

Apex clipper · Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:16 am Post subject:

The first 'awareness' of Revs..was on a drag strip..Me being there...

Many moons and such.
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Blarno · Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject:

I've been in Revs twice! Met Dave Clark, too.

Revs wasn't a bad magazine, to be honest. I also read Redline at around the same time, both were massively better that Max Power or Fast Car and seemed to feature proper big power stuff, rather than all-show no-go shopping trolleys.
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Apex clipper · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:32 am Post subject:

Was there a magazine called MOTOR TREND...That featured main stream yank cars..? Or have I mixed the name up.

"Whatever"..it was called, I enjoyed the mag.##

I searched over the ongoing years at various newsagents, but never found it again.

Anyone...Please!
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DaveGibson · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:31 am Post subject:

There is a magazine called Motor Trend and, being American, it probably features yank cars.

www.motortrend.com

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Matt · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject:

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Pkh72 · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject:

Apex clipper · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject:

Apex clipper · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject:

Stop bickering you two!

Center yourselves or pick your favorite.

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simonp · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject:

Gurney · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:50 am Post subject:

Great new EVO issue 137. Seems the Panamera Turbo really is hamstrung by that air suspension, good news for the XFR and QP in this group test.

Oh and Fiat's MultiAir engine is the greatest advance in engine technology since Mercedes fitted fuel injection to Me109's.

And, I want/need an Artega.

In Orange.
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Pkh72 · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:37 am Post subject:

My copy should theoretically be waiting for me when i get home, if the postie is working.

Scouse · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject:

Turbonutter · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:38 pm Post subject:

Pkh72 · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject:

Turbonutter · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject:

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TimR · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject:

Pkh72 · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject:

TimR · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject:

What can I say.

It's all Alan's fault.

Turbonutter · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject:

Pkh72 · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:18 pm Post subject:

Pkh72 · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject:

Just been looking on the Focus ST owners forum and a chap from Mountune posted this about Evo's figures -

I haven't seen the mag yet, but that result will be down to the rolling road... think about it, it's fantastic for us if it were that powerful and we'd probably sell even more kits than we are now, but our kit is the power it's been rated at by both us, and the TUV man that power tested it. You'll always get what you paid for with us, maybe a touch more, but that figure is way on the high side!

When we produce a calibration we do so on what's called a developer module which allows you complete access to the ECU and to adjust / monitor everything that's going on in your engine. The file we create from this is then industrialised through Ford so it can be released into a form that can be flashed onto standard ECU's by us and Ford's ETIS/IDS setup. Every time a file is industrialised like this it costs BIG money, so as I've explained to a few other people, spending approx £10k to upgrade a handful of press cars would be totally out of the question.

Further to that, I myself had one of the first press cars to be fitted with the Mountune kit in my previous capacity and that made 256bhp, 300lb/ft when I took it to a rolling road.

Bottom line, it's censored.gif good... regardless of what one dyno says compared to another, you've only got to look at the gushing praise for it on here from owners. ).gif

RS is supposed to be 325lb/ft standard - according to the first page it made 370lb/ft - I rest my case..

Guitar Zero · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject:

You can't trust rolling roads or the fuck sticks who operate them.

Frankie's magic R8 being the case in point.
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"him" · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject:

The Zonda 'Cinque' - Chink-whey? (Hands up who got that pronunciation right?)

Looks a little OTT, a Zonda F would be better I think.

The Porsche Panamera was disappointing overall, epic 0-60 time though, and I guess that will appeal to some? Though the 60-150 time was only 0.6 secs faster than the Jag, so perhaps the 0-60 time was a priority with the engineers?

I enjoyed the Mini article.

The Parr Cayman S performed well too...

Good to see Harris back in print too!
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Turbonutter · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject:

Clunes · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:20 am Post subject:

The figures for the ST may well be down to the Rolling Road but I think both cars were tested on the same rollers (although not sure if it was the same time) which still shows how strong the Mountune setup is in comparison to the RS (more torque)

There are loads of people remapping the 2.5T in the ST and claiming approx 260Bhp and 295lb ft with a simple chip/remap e.g. Code Red, Bluefin, Dreamscience, AMD and so on for about £400 and the Mountune goes further so I wouldn't be surprised if the others are optimistic or Mountune conservative.

Clearly the main difference the Mountune brings has to be the intercooler upgrade which, even if it doesn't bring gains on the rolling road, should definitely ensure those figures are valid no matter what driving you are doing whereas many cars running new maps with the standard cooler probably get heat soak.

Please see if you can find out how seriously they are investigating the Mondeo 2.5T. I know the intercooler is not a direct fit and the ECU is different but would be interested to know if they are paying lip service to those asking or are actually thinking about bringing something to market.

Cheers,

O.

Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: