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Racing · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject: Lexus supercar unveiled

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20848

Good Lord! That price is astonishing!

There's no way in hell that looks like £336k's worth of motorcar. £65k's worth at a pinch.

It better be astonishingly good if it's to justify costing twice as much as the McLaren, SLS Gullwing or 458 Italia. Just imagine - you could have the Italia and the SLS in your garage. Or that Lexus. Hmmm....let me think...
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BeN · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject:

I like it, but it definitely isn't worth that much.

It's still a Toyota after all.
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Bob Sacramento · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject:

Seems expensive to me. For the technology and spec £65k would be way too cheap - £120k would be more on the money.

I suppose unlike the Ferrari it would be reliable and well built.
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PG · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject:

£336k. That is the funniest thing I've read all day.

Clearly aimed at the moneyed up chav classes (aka premier footballers) then? I don't think even an investment banker would pay that much.

TimR · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject:

Clunes · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject:

€375k or £343k according to Autocar:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Lexus-LFA/244199/

simonp · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject:

Sounds amazing, but that's a lot to pay for a noise!

http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWa...rs/Videos.aspx?AR=244226&CT=V

Matt · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject:

What's with the asymmetric front wings in the Autocar pics? A bit odd as one side is quite a pronounced crease and the other is a smooth blend.
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Nelson · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject:

I think it look rank (spelt with a 'w'), no cohesion to the styling, its definately not pretty, and £340k....ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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Bob Sacramento · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject:

I actually think the styling is the one thing they've got right. It makes the GT-R look positively dated and the offerings from Aston Martin and Ferrari boring.

Still can't believe the price though. (Then again it's a third of the price of the Aston Martin 177 and Bugatti Veyron, so maybe it's cheap at twice the price).
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Twelfth Monkey · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:58 am Post subject:

Ugly. Expensive. Wonderful sound.
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Gurney · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:30 am Post subject:

And it seems available in Pink.

All credibility down the shitter then.
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Gurney · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:05 am Post subject:

Blarno · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:08 am Post subject:

Yawn.

Supercars are getting dull. We need more crazy. Someone needs to develop a supercar with an 11 cylinder engine, with 3 turbos and 2 superchargers.

And the engine mounted 5 feet behind the back of the car.

The LF-A sounds like an F1 car, which means it does absolutely nothing for me.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:18 am Post subject:

Or a V7 engine where the cylinders on the "three" bank are 4/3 the size of the ones on the "four" bank.

Blarno · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:34 am Post subject:

Now we're talking.

We've had a V5, why not a V7?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject:

Of course, I'm half expecting someone to tell me Honda did it on a motorbike 20 years ago ...

Or what about this baby?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-14_engine

DaveGibson · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject:

It was never raced but I was always impressed by the idea of the 1.5 litre Coventry-Climax flat-16. I suspect that, with cylinders of less than 100cc, its thermal efficiency would have been abysmal. Even smaller, Honda produced a four-cylinder 125cc motorcycle engine and five-cylinder of the same size - the pistons in that must have been like thimbles.

Scouse · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject:

Grampa · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject:

The 'value' of a car is always difficult to asses - at the end of the day I guess they're always set at what people are prepared to pay - BMW, Audi and Mercedes are I guess the masters of building up an 'image' so that people are prepared to pay more than they would for a similar car from a different manufacturer. How often do we hear, "there's no way I would pay £50,000 for a Ford/Vauxhall" - yet people are happy to pay that if a car has the right badge.

Having said all that I think Toyota have gaffed in making this look like an updated Supra if they want to charge supercar money for it.
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DaveGibson · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject:

They're only going to make 500 so, if they sell them all, the total revenue will be of the order of £170 million. I suspect they've spent more than that developing the car and building the production facilities. Admittedly, they may have opportunities to use those facilities for furure things, which should allow some mitigation of the cost.

DarthBalls · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject:

All these 'hypercars' do nothing for me, Veyrons, Ascaris, Paganis, Konigseggs, etc hold no interest at all.
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Humphrey The Pug · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:41 am Post subject:

This is a clever way to stop speculators and to keep the values firm, good on Lexus:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=21086
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Big Blue · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:08 am Post subject:

What they mean is: no-one in the right senses is going to pay half a milion dollars for a Toyota outright so we'll make it more palettable.
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