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DaveGibson
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Lexus IS 220d Reply with quote

The IS250 was in for its two-year service today and, since it wasn’t a ‘while-you-wait’ job, I had the use of a courtesy car for the day. Last year the proffered device was a Toyota Corolla Verso but this year it was a Lexus. I suppose it would have been too much to expect an LS and so it proved, it was a basic IS220d in Cadoxton Slate (same as Parm’s) with an Oakham (i.e. beige) cloth interior.

Compared with my IS250, it was somewhat lacking in the FG stakes. Thus, it had no leather, no electric seat adjustment, no sat/nav, no Bluetooth, no voice command system, no reversing camera, no 14-speaker sound system, no sunroof and no automatic gearbox. About halfway home I set the information display to ‘Range Remaining’ and on seeing ’50 miles’ realised it had virtually no fuel in it either. What it did have, though, was plenty of miles under it because, although it was about a year younger than mine, at almost 26500, it had twice as many miles on it as my two-year-old car.

I was very surprised how quickly the engine started. There was no waiting for glow plugs like other diesels I’ve driven. With the keyless go it was just like the IS250 except, because it was a manual, the clutch had to be dipped instead of the brake before pressing the Start button.

Even after two years of automatic motoring, with only occasional sorties in the TR, adapting to the manual box was reasonably easy. The clutch pedal was much lighter than I expected but, on this example at least, take up was quite abrupt. It was only when I came off the motorway that I momentarily forgot that there was this third thing dangling down on the left. The gear change was pretty slick, too, with only a slight notchiness.

The only modern diesel I’ve been in (but not driven) recently was my sister’s current shape Avensis with the 2.0 litre lump which was tolerably quiet even if it wasn’t six-cylinder smooth so it was interesting to see how refined (or not) the Lexus would be. Autocar were not exactly enamoured of this engine, in their road test, describing it as ‘noisy’ but I have to say that on a motorway cruise, if the Lexus is noisy then I wonder how quiet some of their more favoured cars are. I think the 220d in such circumstances is quieter than my 250, though much of that must be down to the smaller wheels and tyres on the basic diesel model – 205/50-16 all round against 225/45-17 front and 245/45-17 rears. In fact, the increase in noise with increasing engine revs is so well suppressed that at one point I found I was in third gear when I should have been in fifth.

Around town, though, the reverse was true. When idling in traffic, the V6 is virtually inaudible but the diesel rattled noticeably and there was significant vibration through the pedals. Although the tyres seemed quieter on the diesel, I didn’t notice any improvement in the ride which was still very firm with noticeable noise transmission on sharp transverse ridges.

I’m not going to talk about what it was like on the limit because it’s not the sort of car you go hurling round corners, particularly since the weather was dry and the limits would not have been reached safely on public roads.

Having now experienced a modern diesel engine, I have to say I’m firmly in the Alf camp. I’d much rather have a free revving V6 petrol engine responding to my right foot even if, unlike Alf, I’m quite happy to have an automatic attached to it.

As to the service itself, unlike the experience of some others on this forum, I didn’t have to leave it with them at 8:00am only for it not to have been touched when I returned. When I booked it in, last week, they asked me what time I would like to turn up and this morning, when I took it in at a very civilised 9:30, they asked me whether 3:00pm would be OK. I should add that on the way down the M5 there had been a very loud bang from a stone hitting somewhere. I mentioned this to the service receptionist and, when he came out to have a look, he immediately spotted not a scratch but a chunk down to bare metal out of the paint on the nearside windscreen pillar. I’d asked them to do a ‘Smart Repair’ to the scuff that someone had done to the front wing shortly after I bought it (£60 was their quote – Chips Away wanted £100) and they did that plus the pillar for £85. Mind you, the air/con pollen filter was £65 – ouch!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the 220 diesel is the company car, designed for the motorway, the 250 being the one you would buy for yourself.

Is the diesel available with the slush box?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was interested in the IS220D but when I found out they don't do an auto I changed to an IS250 Auto, and I'm pleased I did because when I've used a 220D as courtesy car I wasn't that impressed with the economy or the fact that 6th gear is pretty much unusable below 75mph. Other than that I agree preety much with everything Dave says - maybe I have just been spoiled by the smoothness of the petrol and the instant response of the auto box.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see good customer service. some of us can only live in hope.  My car has to go back in for yet another `service' this month, only 2800 after the last. what's that all about?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know what the economy was Dave and how did it compare to your IS250 auto? I think the fact that Lexus don't do an auto on the diesel is a huge oversight.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's nothing to do with the discussion so far, but I'd just like to say I really like the current IS. It's a really distinctive, attractive car that stands out on the road. I wish there was a sport-cross version, plus the 3.5 litre engine - rawwwr!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 220's overall average mpg was showing at about 36.4mpg as I recall. My overall figure is about 29 but that does include a lot of local trips where the average gets hammered. My best single tank figure was 36+ when I did 450 motorway miles at reasonable speeds. I've seen 42mpg over 100 miles of motorway, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was  a passenger in an Is220d (to hospital) a couple of days ago - my neighbour was kind enough to give me a lift. Anyeway, I was impressed with the refinement. You could only tell it was a diesel at idle and at low speeds, but at speed it's as imperceptible as the V6. This car had the same 17's as mine, so it's ride felt just the same.
The main thing that struck me was that, as a front seat passenger, the Lexus is a fine car to be driven it. It's really comfortable.


I'm still glad I got the petrol. It's the smoothest spinning 6 I've ever driven, if a little souless. Never got 42mpg out of it though! 35 max.

ALF, I too wish they'd bought the 350 here. I would have had that like a shot.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALF wrote:
It's nothing to do with the discussion so far, but I'd just like to say I really like the current IS. It's a really distinctive, attractive car that stands out on the road. I wish there was a sport-cross version, plus the 3.5 litre engine - rawwwr!


For some reason it doesn't appeal to me so much vs the old one? And the old Sport Cross - yes it's pointless but it looks great.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really?  I think the old Sportcross looks ugly and awkward.  I quite like the old IS, reminds me of the Compact in some ways.

I like the new one aswell and quite like the idea of a 220D for some reason!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I always though the old Sportcross looked awkward, like a badly judged photochop of two separate cars. But I liked the old saloon a lot, and the new one even more - I'd even go as far to say it's the best looking car in its class.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very E36 like in its approach, the old IS. I'd take an Altezza RS200 import.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt wrote:
...I'd take an Altezza RS200 import...

Don't they all come with a FG gearbox?

TBH all the ones I have ever seen, have been ruined with the addition of Neons, oversized wheels etc.

Shame, as they look nice from the factory...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I was looking at earlier, it seems the RS has a 4cyl 2.0 with 6mt as standard or optional slushbox. The lower-powered AS200 is a straight 6 with a manual. I could live with less power for the 6 sound.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice review on the IS 220d. this is one among my top 10 favorite lexus cars of all time. this is because it really does have quality beefy tentacles.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

raysteve wrote:
nice review on the IS 220d. this is one among my top 10 favorite lexus cars of all time. this is because it really does have quality lexus parts.


are you scummy or steve ,Im getting mixed up with all the user names?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

raysteve wrote:
nice review on the IS 220d. this is one among my top 10 favorite lexus cars of all time. this is because it really does have quality lexus parts.


Are there different types of Lexus parts? Or, have previous Lexus parts just been pretending to be Lexus parts?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raysteve wrote:
nice review on the IS 220d. this is one among my top 10 favorite lexus cars of all time. this is because it really does have quality lexus parts.


I have to say it's my least favourite Lexus and a world apart from the V6 petrol auto.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I can name 10 Lexus, never mind all-time rank them.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbeaks1 wrote:
I don't think I can name 10 Lexus, never mind all-time rank them.


theres only 4 isnt there ? The LS,the GS,the RX and the IS..oh and the lfa but £300k cars don't count.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raysteve wrote:
........    this is because it really does have quality lexus parts.

Like the Toyota diesel engine, for instance?

franki68 wrote:
cbeaks1 wrote:
I don't think I can name 10 Lexus, never mind all-time rank them.


theres only 4 isnt there ? The LS,the GS,the RX and the IS..oh and the lfa but £300k cars don't count.

You forgot the SC - probably just as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's also the ES, the HS, LX & GX - but we don't get them over here.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And in two or three months there'll be the CT200h.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
raysteve wrote:
nice review on the IS 220d. this is one among my top 10 favorite lexus cars of all time. this is because it really does have quality lexus parts.


Are there different types of Lexus parts? Or, have previous Lexus parts just been pretending to be Lexus parts?


there's a lot of lexus part but what do you mean by different types of it?do you mean original part?and the one that's pretending was the aftermarket?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I'm late with this and I do apologize for that. But just wanna share this one. I own a Lexus IS 220d. I'll show you some of its photos:


Front view. This was taken last week near Arnaz park Beverly hills

back view. This was taken also last week near my aunt's house.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one, I particularly like the 2nd shot...

...normally we just photoshop the number plate out, but you have gone one better and removed it altogether...

...oh, and switched the car from RH drive to LH drive.

Sir, I salute your efforts for a first post.
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Goodbye.
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A RHD car in Beverly Hills, eh? And even better, there's a Vauxhall in the background!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's even changed colour, from dark blue to black?!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But... Why????



Why???? Why, why, why?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha this question keeps on bothering me, is that really your car saltyman? Anyway nice car model  
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You can feck off as well.
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