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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: It's taken a year... |
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...but the audiobeast (and the family, I suppose) have been re-homed. Barring curtains/blinds and tidying up the cabling the extension is finally finished, so I hope you'll forgive me wanting to share a few pictures.
 _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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Blarno Motorhead
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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That extension is nearly as big as my house!
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Boxer6 Turbocharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Aye, it's awright I suppose!
Actually, it looks like you'll be doing some serious listening in there! Is it a Mr & Mrs 12th only area, or are the weans allowed in too? Far too nice for sprogs, I reckon, but each to their own!! _________________ Just keepin' on keeping on. |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I was wondering where that music was coming from ... |
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scamper Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice,
I'd be scared to go in there in case I spilt something on the sofa/carpet/hi-fi.
Having said that, at least we have found the location for the Forum Xmas party! |
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woof woof Twin-charged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent.
Are you going to have a seating area outside too? It'd be nice to sit just outide.
Also...I can't see a turntable 12th? Don't you have one anymore? I have two in different rooms and they both get used. _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."
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DradusContact Turbocharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Togther at the same time i hope? m-m-m-mix it up.
Oh, and very nice! _________________
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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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The famille et chiens are tolerated, though the latter seem to view the open space as somewhere in which to brawl. It shall not be!
Without curtains, the room still sounds a bit 'live', so the stereo doesn't sound quite as good as it will, but having a dedicated mains spur (and unswitched socket) for the electronics, plus room for the speakers to breathe, has worked wonders.
It's been worth the aggro, but there has been plenty of that...
Alan, the turntable is in the wardrobe, having consigned its medium to shiny discs. I don't miss vinyl, other than in the wonderful tactility of sleeves. CD can sound marvellous, but requires just as careful pampering as the LP does.
The area behind the windows is being converted to part-garden/part patio, and will be for sitting and barbecueing. The area onto which the doors open will be poncified with glorified weeds for aesthetic purposes. _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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PG Turbocharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice. A veritable home entertainment complex. Don't get ice cream on the furniture
| Twelfth Monkey wrote: | | The area onto which the doors open will be poncified with glorified weeds for aesthetic purposes. |
I take it you're not into gardening then? |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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The dog doesn't look too impressed... _________________ "Racing is life. Everything before and after is just waiting." Steve McQueen |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Good old Billy bookcases, where would we be without IKEA?
Looks great. Must admit I've been thinking of turning our dining room into a den for listening pleasure but, to be honest, I'm not that up on what's the best way forward. I might nip into Richer Sounds for a chat. _________________ Keep Calm & Carry On. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent! It looks like your original sitting room will be all but redundant now. _________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Henry Royce |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice. Loving the FMJ kit. But where's the PS3? _________________
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woof woof Twin-charged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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12th, If you're not into gardening a few tubs on the patio might be a nice idea. A few roses or perennials of some sort or other take
very little looking after and give so much joy. _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Eff One wrote: | | The dog doesn't look too impressed... |
That's what i was thinking. It's almost as if you can see the disapointment as realisation sinks in that it isn't his/her new room after all.
Good effort 12th. _________________ Nothing to see here |
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woof woof Twin-charged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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I think the dog's pointing to a squirrel hiding in the bin. _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."
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Big TC Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Wow - that'll be really nice when its finished.  _________________
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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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The dog is resolutely unimpressed with everything, doubly so since her reproductive bits were extracted on Wednedsay.
Gardening is not my bag, though I won;t complain about having nice plants to look at. Plants, not flowers, mind...
Regarding front room/PS3, the boys have that:
 _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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SpecB Turbocharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Cool stuff. I would love a room just for TV but I do enjoy very much our kitchen/living extension _________________
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm disappointed. I thought you were gonna tell us you'd got 30mpg out of the Audi.  |
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Frank Bullitt Turbocharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| simonp wrote: | I'm disappointed. I thought you were gonna tell us you'd got 30mpg out of the Audi.  |
Looks great and much better value than buying a new home - make the one you enjoy a bit more of what you want!
At the moment I'd just settle for a new kitchen and bathroom - luckily we have a large lounge _________________ Shame your mind don't shine like your possessions |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Frank Bullitt wrote: | | At the moment I'd just settle for a new kitchen and bathroom - luckily we have a large lounge |
So you use it as a bathroom?  _________________
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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| simonp wrote: | I'm disappointed. I thought you were gonna tell us you'd got 30mpg out of the Audi.  |
I did. Once.
Too much like hard work, but nice to know it's possible. _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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That looks ace. Top job.
So when's the forum party? _________________ Drifting through life |
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DetmoldDick Motoring On
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Nice job, my A/V room had to be given up to the wife for her study room.
That building site looks very orderly, looks like a professionel job. If I may be so bold, what did the extension cost you? _________________ A thing of beauty is a joy forever; Keats. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| My a/v room hasn't been started yet, 6 years after moving in! Had big plans, but stuff like sofas and beds were deemed more necessary by Mrs P than plasma screens and it's all ended up forgotten about. |
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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| DetmoldDick wrote: | Nice job, my A/V room had to be given up to the wife for her study room.
That building site looks very orderly, looks like a professionel job. If I may be so bold, what did the extension cost you? |
The building itself was just under £30k, mandatory piled foundations about £7k, and I'd budgeted £3k for everything else. The latter was a woeful underestimate.
But like Frank says, moving would have cost around £20k in 'dead money' (legal fees, moving costs, stamp duty etc), and we'd have struggled to find anything with a room like I had planned. _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| Twelfth Monkey wrote: | | DetmoldDick wrote: | Nice job, my A/V room had to be given up to the wife for her study room.
That building site looks very orderly, looks like a professionel job. If I may be so bold, what did the extension cost you? |
The building itself was just under £30k, mandatory piled foundations about £7k, and I'd budgeted £3k for everything else. The latter was a woeful underestimate.
But like Frank says, moving would have cost around £20k in 'dead money' (legal fees, moving costs, stamp duty etc), and we'd have struggled to find anything with a room like I had planned. |
That's about right. Our kitchen extension was about £30k for the building. _________________
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Looks very good actually, strange how apparent size changes during the build process. _________________ Politicians. Would a career specialist by any other name carry such a putrid stench? |
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"him" Turbocharged
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| Mike Amos wrote: | | Looks very good actually, strange how apparent size changes during the build process. |
That is possibly attributable to the stress of the build? _________________ Remember - A gym without chalk is a heath spa... |
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Mark Petrolhead
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Quite nice.
The bookcases would have to go, though.
I do like the colour of the carpet.
I hope you enjoy it. |
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| Twelfth Monkey wrote: | | ...mandatory piled foundations about £7k, and I'd budgeted £3k for everything else. The latter was a woeful underestimate. |
Piled foundations on a single storey extension - do you live in a bog?!!!! £3K for all the above ground works - all you needed to do was ask and I'd have given you a better guestimate... _________________ Shame your mind don't shine like your possessions |
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The problem is, building regulations require the foundations to be good enough for a two storey extension.
Mine had to be well over a metre down and I had to have the rest of the house underpinned at the back to do a single storey.
Interestingly, the two storey extension next door's founds only went down half as much as mine but it was built in the 70s.
I'd estimated about 1000 per square meter and it turned out at about 1200 but building costs last year were huge. _________________
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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, foundations had to match those for the existing building, which means about twenty piles going in 18 feet. _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Looks perfect for playing an X-Factor winners compilation.
Very nice room. Are the floorstanders in the lounge Libertys of some kind? _________________
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garry Motoring On
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| Twelfth Monkey wrote: | | Yep, foundations had to match those for the existing building, which means about twenty piles going in 18 feet. |
That's some depth! Why is that?
Like the room btw. The benefit of a new room is that you can design it for modern technology - try fitting big screens into an old house! |
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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Matt, I confess I've forgotten what they were. Symphony 8s, bought ten years ago but still going strong.
Garry, I confess I've no idea. The garden has tended to waterlog a little when we've had very wet summers, in part because of the clay soil, but also because we're at the (effective) foot of quite a big hill, which is bound to encourage water to flow in our direction.
I missed the piles going in but it sounds like something worth watching. I'd have assumed that they would be 'hammered' in, but Mrs 12th tells me that the piles (which are hollow) have something pneumatic inserted (and the analogy of putting on a condom springs to mind) and they gradually sink into the ground. Fair vibration, mind; the pictures all needed straightening that afternoon.
As well as the 'dead money' in moving, the advantage of being able to start from scratch is that you can lay things out exactly as you'd like. In British houses, the fireplace is usually exactly where you would choose to site a screen, given free rein. I've seen many get around this by siting the TV above the fireplace, but the screen should sit not too far from eye line for best effect. _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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TimR Supercharged
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| Twelfth Monkey wrote: |
I missed the piles going in but it sounds like something worth watching. I'd have assumed that they would be 'hammered' in, but Mrs 12th tells me that the piles (which are hollow) have something pneumatic inserted (and the analogy of putting on a condom springs to mind) and they gradually sink into the ground. Fair vibration, mind; the pictures all needed straightening that afternoon. |
A nightclub got built near my work and the piles got hammered in by a large caterpillar tracked digger thing.
After a week it got kinda boring - noise and vibration.
I presume the method depends on depth - the ones I refer to went in at least 40 feet - and the nature of the ground they're going into. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Lovely room Twelfth, it must be fantastic to design from scratch to your exact specification, and have exactly what you want.
Looking at the building work reminded me of when my parents built a huge extension onto the back of their house, they added another 50% onto the back, two storey too. _________________ Mummy, Daddy, Sissy, Sassy Baby. |
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"him" Turbocharged
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| TimR wrote: | A nightclub got built near my work and the piles got hammered in by a large caterpillar tracked digger thing.
After a week it got kinda boring - noise and vibration. |
Surely if they were bored piles there would be no vibration?
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| "him" wrote: | | TimR wrote: | A nightclub got built near my work and the piles got hammered in by a large caterpillar tracked digger thing.
After a week it got kinda boring - noise and vibration. |
Surely if they were bored piles there would be no vibration?
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Sorry, us engineers lead dull lives! _________________ Remember - A gym without chalk is a heath spa... |
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TimR Supercharged
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| Twelfth Monkey wrote: | | ........ I'd have assumed that they would be 'hammered' in, but Mrs 12th tells me that the piles (which are hollow) have something pneumatic inserted (and the analogy of putting on a condom springs to mind) and they gradually sink into the ground. ........... |
If you vibrate the ground at its natural frequency, it starts to behave like quicksand so the piles just sink in. |
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TimR Supercharged
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| DaveGibson wrote: | | If you vibrate the ground at its natural frequency, it starts to behave like quicksand so the piles just sink in. |
Sinking a pile is a bit like making love to a beautiful woman.......... |
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| .... and using a computer. It's all a question of input and output. |
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ALF Supercharged
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| Bloody hell, that's a fine effort. Your wife negotiation skills must be top notch! |
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"him" Turbocharged
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| ALF wrote: | | Bloody hell, that's a fine effort. Your wife negotiation skills must be top notch! |
I think Mrs Twelfth is allowed to use the room too? ...well, at least at weekends?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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| "him" wrote: | | ALF wrote: | | Bloody hell, that's a fine effort. Your wife negotiation skills must be top notch! |
I think Mrs Twelfth is allowed to use the room too? ...well, at least to Hoover it |
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| TimR wrote: | | DaveGibson wrote: | | If you vibrate the ground at its natural frequency, it starts to behave like quicksand so the piles just sink in. |
Sinking a pile is a bit like making love to a beautiful woman.......... |
A mate's an expert and has a large one. Piling and Pile driver's that is.
Look's great......I'm very jealous, though a room to house my TV and Hi-fi wouldn't be so worthwhile for my kit. The idea of putting the kids somewhere else is very appealing though  _________________ Aint no substitute for cubic inches. |
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