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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:05 pm    Post subject: B740 and B797  Reply with quote

So a "road" test in a different sense of the word. Inspired by evo's COTY story, I set out to explore the roads they used, in what I thought was Dumfries and Galloway, but is in fact South Lanarkshire, but anyway, a part of Scotland that is often neglected in favour of the Highlands and Islands, regarded as "just that bit you pass on the M74 between Carlisle and Glasgow."

Well, blow me down if I didn't find some of the best roads I've ever driven on, and blessedly free of traffic. I started from Glasgow airport, and by cutting across country, got on the B7037 and B743, which cut across moorland, offering fine views ahead so that overtaking is never an issue.

But that was just the start, getting me to the B740 from Crawfordjohn to Sanquhar, which is an amazing, twisting narrow ribbon of tarmac dropped on an unsuspecting landscape. This apparently was the road that evo chose to show precisely what each car was capable of, as well as exposing its limitations. Saw only one other vehicle in its 13 miles, albeit a full sized artic, thankfully going the other way.

That done, you just go a few miles along the A76, before taking the B797 over Wanlockhead (where there was loads of snow on the ground) to Abington. This is another tight twister, again mostly clear of traffic, and 15 miles of driving Nirvana.

And the car was perfect for the occasion: a BMW 118i Sport, which crucially, was narrow enough not to make me wince or back off whenever anything came the other way (not that that happened very often). And the 1.5 litre turbo petrol triple was a willing participant - I can honestly say I didn't once wish for more power - I cannot even comprehend what it would be like to manhandle a 600+ bhp supercar over that route - you'd need someone to follow to pick up the bits of splitter.

Anyway, if you're ever up that way, make sure you take the time for a little diversion. Though ideally, you'd want to do it without passengers, as they wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much, nor would you enjoy the smell of vomit.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:53 pm    Post subject: Re: B740 and B797 Reply with quote

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
So a "road" test in a different sense of the word. Inspired by evo's COTY story, I set out to explore the roads they used, in what I thought was Dumfries and Galloway, but is in fact South Lanarkshire, but anyway, a part of Scotland that is often neglected in favour of the Highlands and Islands, regarded as "just that bit you pass on the M74 between Carlisle and Glasgow."

Well, blow me down if I didn't find some of the best roads I've ever driven on, and blessedly free of traffic. I started from Glasgow airport, and by cutting across country, got on the B7037 and B743, which cut across moorland, offering fine views ahead so that overtaking is never an issue.

But that was just the start, getting me to the B740 from Crawfordjohn to Sanquhar, which is an amazing, twisting narrow ribbon of tarmac dropped on an unsuspecting landscape. This apparently was the road that evo chose to show precisely what each car was capable of, as well as exposing its limitations. Saw only one other vehicle in its 13 miles, albeit a full sized artic, thankfully going the other way.

That done, you just go a few miles along the A76, before taking the B797 over Wanlockhead (where there was loads of snow on the ground) to Abington. This is another tight twister, again mostly clear of traffic, and 15 miles of driving Nirvana.

And the car was perfect for the occasion: a BMW 118i Sport, which crucially, was narrow enough not to make me wince or back off whenever anything came the other way (not that that happened very often). And the 1.5 litre turbo petrol triple was a willing participant - I can honestly say I didn't once wish for more power - I cannot even comprehend what it would be like to manhandle a 600+ bhp supercar over that route - you'd need someone to follow to pick up the bits of splitter.

Anyway, if you're ever up that way, make sure you take the time for a little diversion. Though ideally, you'd want to do it without passengers, as they wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much, nor would you enjoy the smell of vomit.


I've driven all the roads you speak of at various times, and many others too! You're quite correct in that this neck of the woods is sadly overlooked by many who enjoy driving, though to drive them in summer would be a whole different story!

Interesting too that two foreign-based (England being 'foreign' for the purposes of this post!) forumers have visited my (and JohnC's) locale in the past week and not let on until they've gone home. Hmm.  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the ideal spot for a forum meet in 2017
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a bloody long way!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sounds like a bloody long way!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just fly up and cadge a lift!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll just fly up and cadge a lift!

That's what I did - flew to Glasgow
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I'm about to board a flight from Gatwick to Glasgow this morning, sadly I'm only going to the city centre for the day and I won't have a hire car.
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Those are roads I used to drive many years ago. The firm I trained with used to do the audit of the Scottish Milk Marketing Board and the other farming related businesses and those were roads I used to practice my racecraft on as I visited all the creameries. There is also a Sprint track at Muirkirk which we used to drive to in the road going race cars and by the time you got there you were well into the groove.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: B740 and B797 Reply with quote

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
But that was just the start, getting me to the B740 from Crawfordjohn to Sanquhar, which is an amazing, twisting narrow ribbon of tarmac dropped on an unsuspecting landscape. This apparently was the road that evo chose to show precisely what each car was capable of, as well as exposing its limitations. Saw only one other vehicle in its 13 miles, albeit a full sized artic, thankfully going the other way.



Ssssssssssssssshhhh we don't want people to find out about roads like these or they'll get clogged up and then policed.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: B740 and B797 Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
But that was just the start, getting me to the B740 from Crawfordjohn to Sanquhar, which is an amazing, twisting narrow ribbon of tarmac dropped on an unsuspecting landscape. This apparently was the road that evo chose to show precisely what each car was capable of, as well as exposing its limitations. Saw only one other vehicle in its 13 miles, albeit a full sized artic, thankfully going the other way.

Ssssssssssssssshhhh we don't want people to find out about roads like these or they'll get clogged up and then policed.

By the time I handed the car back, the rear number plate was well and truly unreadable, and the formerly white car was anything but. Avis person: "what have you been doing with it?"
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Those are roads I used to drive many years ago. The firm I trained with used to do the audit of the Scottish Milk Marketing Board and the other farming related businesses and those were roads I used to practice my racecraft on as I visited all the creameries. There is also a Sprint track at Muirkirk which we used to drive to in the road going race cars and by the time you got there you were well into the groove.

Though I expect the sprint track was less bumpy. Funny how evo complained that the road completely foxed the M2, whereas the 118i took the bumps in its stride. I"m becoming more and more impressed with the 1-series every time I drive one. Hopefully the M140i doesn't spoil it by being too stiffly sprung.
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My car isn't at its best on those roads either. It will make very rapid progress but it's the last 10% it doesn't do as well with all the bumps, crests and changes of direction etc arriving too quickly for the suspension to sort itself out. It is much better is Comfort mode on those roads than in Sport.

Good UK suspension tuning tends to be slightly softer on the bump and stiffer on the rebound for the dampers and firm but not rock hard on the springs.

With smoother roads elsewhere the manufacturers often have stiff springs, stiff on the bump and softer on the rebound - this leads to a bit of pitching and loss of front end grip when it gets bouncy.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Tim wrote:
Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
But that was just the start, getting me to the B740 from Crawfordjohn to Sanquhar, which is an amazing, twisting narrow ribbon of tarmac dropped on an unsuspecting landscape. This apparently was the road that evo chose to show precisely what each car was capable of, as well as exposing its limitations. Saw only one other vehicle in its 13 miles, albeit a full sized artic, thankfully going the other way.

Ssssssssssssssshhhh we don't want people to find out about roads like these or they'll get clogged up and then policed.

By the time I handed the car back, the rear number plate was well and truly unreadable, and the formerly white car was anything but. Avis person: "what have you been doing with it?"


I'd have responded "making it worth your while cleaning it!"
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I've never done those B roads. But when I trained as an accountant we used to have the audit of European Ferries (this was 1981-84) and I once had to fly to Glasgow and drive to Cairnryan to take the financial year end ferry across to Larne in NI and back to do the cash count and booze stock takes. It was on one of the ships that had been in the Falklands but I can't remember which one.

Anyway, the roads both ways were deserted and in those pre-camera days the Astra hire car had a damn good thrashing.
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PG wrote:
I've never done those B roads. But when I trained as an accountant we used to have the audit of European Ferries (this was 1981-84) and I once had to fly to Glasgow and drive to Cairnryan to take the financial year end ferry across to Larne in NI and back to do the cash count and booze stock takes. It was on one of the ships that had been in the Falklands but I can't remember which one.

Anyway, the roads both ways were deserted and in those pre-camera days the Astra hire car had a damn good thrashing.


Lucky you weren't on the night boat because one time coming back from Cairnryan we were and the speed the trucks went up and down there was terrifying.
I think the vehicle handlers must've got entertainment by letting the cars off first knowing that they'd soon be caught, on a dark winding road, by 44 tonnes of impatient artic.  

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