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Turbonutter Petrolhead
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: Autocar 19-08-09 |
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Full road test of the TT RS
Seems the times in EVO weren't a fluke - they really are that fast
0-100 in 11.4 with a ss1/4 of 13.3 @ 109. Not especially light at 1490kg either
Able to beat the Cayman S in the dry and match it in the wet on the handling circuit
Got a comparison of the Murci SV against the ZR1 .
The ZR1 does does look pretty nice on the outside ( although I don't like the polycarbonate bonnet panel ) and it would be good if they could do an interior like the Lambo's |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Doesn't surprise me: the same power as an E46 M3 but the best part of 100 kg lighter.
Regarding the ZR1, photos to tend to flatter the Corvette: when I had a chance to look at some real ones, I was shocked to see how cheap and kit-car-ish it looked. |
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Turbonutter Petrolhead
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | Doesn't surprise me: the same power as an E46 M3 but the best part of 100 kg lighter.
Regarding the ZR1, photos to tend to flatter the Corvette: when I had a chance to look at some real ones, I was shocked to see how cheap and kit-car-ish it looked. |
4wd systems must have improved a bit though as you'd normally factor in quite a bit of transmission drag. Impressive against the R8 times as well
or an M3 CSL |
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Turbonutter Petrolhead
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | Doesn't surprise me: the same power as an E46 M3 but the best part of 100 kg lighter.
Regarding the ZR1, photos to tend to flatter the Corvette: when I had a chance to look at some real ones, I was shocked to see how cheap and kit-car-ish it looked. |
I haven't seen one in the flesh yet but it scrubs up well for the camera in the pics taken.
Only ever seen David Yu's Z06 close up and that was under a layer of Donington winter grime at the time  |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| Turbonutter wrote: | | Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | Doesn't surprise me: the same power as an E46 M3 but the best part of 100 kg lighter.
Regarding the ZR1, photos to tend to flatter the Corvette: when I had a chance to look at some real ones, I was shocked to see how cheap and kit-car-ish it looked. |
4wd systems must have improved a bit though as you'd normally factor in quite a bit of transmission drag. Impressive against the R8 times as well
or an M3 CSL |
Though to offset that, you have better initial traction, which is important when measuring standing start times. For example, the current M3 was slower to 60 mph than the RS4, because of the Audi's better traction, but quicker to 100 mph, because the BMW was lighter. |
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Turbonutter Petrolhead
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | | Turbonutter wrote: | | Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | Doesn't surprise me: the same power as an E46 M3 but the best part of 100 kg lighter.
Regarding the ZR1, photos to tend to flatter the Corvette: when I had a chance to look at some real ones, I was shocked to see how cheap and kit-car-ish it looked. |
4wd systems must have improved a bit though as you'd normally factor in quite a bit of transmission drag. Impressive against the R8 times as well
or an M3 CSL |
Though to offset that, you have better initial traction, which is important when measuring standing start times. For example, the current M3 was slower to 60 mph than the RS4, because of the Audi's better traction, but quicker to 100 mph, because the BMW was lighter. |
All true ....still quite impressed by how quick it is though. I suspect that engine is very healthy - excellent hook-up rather like the old C32 AMG Mercs |
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Apex clipper Turbocharged
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Apex clipper wrote: | Audi TT RS. In black having a 'row' with a RS4.
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Not one I'd like too poke!
Having said that..Blown dried Sir?  _________________ Minky Moo & Millie Maloo. |
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Matt Nuclear
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely love the colour and redesign of the RRS interior in this week's issue. _________________
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| I think the new RRS interior is perfect: a bit smarter than D4 and a bit less fussy than the RR. If I needed a 4x4, I wouldn't consider anything else. |
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Mark Petrolhead
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Autocar 19-08-09 |
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| Turbonutter wrote: | Full road test of the TT RS
Seems the times in EVO weren't a fluke - they really are that fast
0-100 in 11.4 with a ss1/4 of 13.3 @ 109. Not especially light at 1490kg either
Able to beat the Cayman S in the dry and match it in the wet on the handling circuit |
Fast - but not really that good overall, it seems.
I think Audi need to tone down there RS/- Line styling - it's becoming borderline garish to me. |
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ALF Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Just read the online review of the TTRS. 3 stars? Seems harsh - sounds like a great car to own, just not the last word in dynamics, 4-stars surely? Perhaps they are applying a harsher rating nowadays.
I had a look around one while being raped for £30 for a radio key, and apart from the stupid rear wing it looked good - but I know what you mean about Audi S-Line styling. They need to go a bit more curvy and subtle and a bit less aftermarket tuned Vauxhall. |
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Turbonutter Petrolhead
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| ALF wrote: | Just read the online review of the TTRS. 3 stars? Seems harsh - sounds like a great car to own, just not the last word in dynamics, 4-stars surely? Perhaps they are applying a harsher rating nowadays.
I had a look around one while being raped for £30 for a radio key, and apart from the stupid rear wing it looked good - but I know what you mean about Audi S-Line styling. They need to go a bit more curvy and subtle and a bit less aftermarket tuned Vauxhall. |
Yes, I was a bit surprised about the placing
First TT that has really roused my interest - I'd certainly consider one in the future if I had some spare cash |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| I completely ignore Autocar's (and everyone else's) star ratings: as a guide to a car, they're about as useful as Top Gear's Cool Wall. |
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Martin Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | | I completely ignore Autocar's (and everyone else's) star ratings: as a guide to a car, they're about as useful as Top Gear's Cool Wall. |
+1 with knobs on!
How can you when it's just personal opinion? _________________
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ALF Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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The Cool Wall is in some ways more useful, as it is a subjective analysis and most people buy things for subjective reasons.
However, everyone has different opinions, "objective" and "subjective", making any ratings difficult! |
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Matt Nuclear
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I was hoping the red TT that had apeared in the stealer's window was an RS, but after a longer passing glance it is only an S at best. It has RS4 wheels in gunmetal. _________________
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cbeaks1 Petrolhead
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think TT S-Line gets RS4 style wheels.
The worst TT RS feature, the spoiler, has been tacked on to a 2.0 T-FSI at my gym, ruining a pretty car. Revolting. |
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Martin Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| cbeaks1 wrote: | I think TT S-Line gets RS4 style wheels.
The worst TT RS feature, the spoiler, has been tacked on to a 2.0 T-FSI at my gym, ruining a pretty car. Revolting. |
Not as standard they don't, but I can see why you'd think that due to the number that have them!! _________________
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cbeaks1 Petrolhead
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| True - £735 option. I'd rather have the BBS style 20 spokes I think. |
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