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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:43 pm    Post subject: A1 S-Line?  Reply with quote

My mother has finally decided that it's time to get an automatic car, so she's looking to chop her 6yr old A3 Sportback (a 1.4T Sport) for an automatic A1 Sportback in 1.4T flavour. I reckon I could probably get her into a new 125bhp 1.4T Sport auto with a few select options (metallic paint, SD sat nav, heated seats, climate control) for around 18.5k, but ideally she wants to only add 10k to the value of the A3, which the dealer would offer around 6k for, so that means also looking at nearly new.

And, given the spec she'd like (sat nav, heated seats, climate control), there are more suitable S-Line versions kicking around than there are Sport versions. However, while my mother seems to be fine with the Sport suspension in her A3, I am a little concerned that she'd find the ride on an S-Line A1 uncomfortable (yes, I know the S-Line suspension could be deleted as a no-cost option but it doesn't seem to be common).

So, has anyone tried an S-Line A1 and how hard/bad is the ride?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't but I find the Sport set up perfectly reasonable and it wouldn't be an issue being firmer.

Mrs FB's cousin always gets stellar deals from Bury St Edmunds, might be worth seeing what they can do a new Sport in the right spec for; a Sport with comfort pack, climate and heated seats lists for about 20k so low 18's looking at the discounts available; they may be able to improve on the part ex too...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can find a stock car before the end of the year, the discounts might be very good.

As for the suspension, I have never even sat in an A1 so I don't have a clue.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting - I hadn't thought of Bury. Mum has historically used Robinsons of Lowestoft but she moved two years ago and Ipswich Audi are probably now just as close.

Coast2Coast suggests a circa 2k discount on a 1.4T auto.

Problem with the A1 I find is that it is very spec-sensitive. An S-Line with the xenons and nattier bumpers and alloys, is a smart piece of kit. A standard Sport on 16" shirt buttons looks really rather dowdy.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having had a quick search, I think new is the only way you are going to get one with the spec you want.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. Bun-warmers are hard to find in an A1.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth checking if they can retrofit the seat warmers. We can now, front and rear, and I can't imagine we are right at the cutting edge.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audi only put the heating elements into leather seats (ie reasonably easy to retro fit), cloth ones don't have them at all.

Mrs FB' cousins Mrs has an A1 1.4TFSi Sport 5dr in the metallic white with silver roof and comfort pack, otherwise it's standard - he was looking at used too but Bury managed to do him a deal which the finance support made cheaper than a 12 month old similar car on the forecourt. I quite like the standard wheels on the Sport especially as the S-Line now has a set of mingers.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get heated cloth seats in a Golf Git
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can get heated cloth seats in a Golf Git


You can get heated cloth seats in most VAG products, but the elements aren't fitted to cars without this being specified from the factory; leather seats have the elements pre-wired (or certainly Audi do, other VAG products may not).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah! You mean for retro purposes not generally
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enquired for my Mother in Law previously and retro fit heated seats were not possible on a BMW.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mum has lived without heated seats in her A3 but she would like them in her next car.

Talking last night, she did admit that her next car "doesn't have to be an Audi". Turns out that she quite likes the look of the Mini Countryman.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That should be much easier to get a fit for her budget.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She, in classic older person style, likes the ease of access afforded by a higher seating position, plus she's keen not to get too small a car because she needs to be able to cart grandchildren around from time-to-time.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've suggested this before for someone else's parent, but Audi Q2?

Would appear to be an ideal vehicle for aging parents who want small, high seating, premium badge. Surely a customer demographic that is going to grow massively in the coming years.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried the A1 with S-Line suspension before (albeit the more powerful 185bhp version), and it is fairly stiff.

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=389

Of course the car has been facelifted since then so not sure if things have changed.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a Yeti? They seem to have popular appear amongst the older country living set!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giant wrote:
I've suggested this before for someone else's parent, but Audi Q2?

Would appear to be an ideal vehicle for aging parents who want small, high seating, premium badge. Surely a customer demographic that is going to grow massively in the coming years.



I have a client who went to buy a new Q2 but due to "no discount Audi" prices came away with a 3mth old Q3, many more toys and saved 50 a month.

I fear that bot Q2 and Q3 are going to be out of Racing's Mum's budget unless pretty leggy.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Blue wrote:
You can get heated cloth seats in a Golf Git


What's frank said to upset you so much ? Surely his ignorance of Audi/vw heated seats isn't that offensive?
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Given the budget, but using BB's small SUV idea, how about Tiguan?
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You can get heated cloth seats in a Golf Git


What's frank said to upset you so much ? Surely his ignorance of Audi/vw heated seats isn't that offensive?




On second read you're right but GTis have always been Gits.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Q2 is gopping!!

She doesn't want a full-on SUV like a Tiguan, plus I suspect they are out of budget. I suspect the only contenders are the Countryman or 500X, or possibly something Japanese, but my mother's never gone a bundle on Japanese cars.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something like this?:

https://www.approvedusedminis.co....amp;dl=false&mstk=34715198344!14

Is this too fast/uneconomical?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ts&postcode=de76hq&page=2

Or some 4x4

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ic&postcode=de76hq&page=2
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Business dealt with;

https://www.motorpoint.co.uk/used...ons/-maxfinance=1000-minfinance=0
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the Fiat 500X? She'll easily get one for the budget set, my brother's been selling loads of them and really rates them. Dunno if they come with bum warmers though.
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How about a 500X?
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Has anyone suggested the FIAT 500X?..
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I missed it Franks suggestion amongst all the talk about heating your posterior.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racing Teatray wrote:
Mum has lived without heated seats in her A3 but she would like them in her next car.

Talking last night, she did admit that her next car "doesn't have to be an Audi". Turns out that she quite likes the look of the Mini Countryman.


The 500X is a good shout and, as I've mentioned before, my mum swopped her MINI for a Countryman and loves it. She generally changes her car every 3 or 4 years but the one she's got has just turned 4 and she has no desire to move it on. The ease of getting in and out is a big plus for her at 75*.

*75 years of age, not 75mph.
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I expect there are some good run out deals on the old / current Countryman.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Audi only put the heating elements into leather seats (ie reasonably easy to retro fit), cloth ones don't have them at all.

Mrs FB' cousins Mrs has an A1 1.4TFSi Sport 5dr in the metallic white with silver roof and comfort pack, otherwise it's standard - he was looking at used too but Bury managed to do him a deal which the finance support made cheaper than a 12 month old similar car on the forecourt. I quite like the standard wheels on the Sport especially as the S-Line now has a set of mingers.


You can, however, get heated seats in an A1 with half leather seats - i.e the seat faces are cloth and the side bolsters are leather.
Also have the S-Line suspension delete ( NCO ) - ride is fairly firm on 18s, very acceptable on 16s. Found the S-Line suspension over harsh on 18s ( 5-arm rotors with 225/35 x 18s ).
Handles very nicely, on the 195 16s - engine potent enought to hang onto a 306Gti-6 in 150bhp format

Dealers may also advise that 5-seat A1 option is not available with moonroof - I can tell you it certainly is - they're not mutually exclusive.

I even like the turbo burble on start-up - not as much fun as the old R53 MCS ....but a lot more economical
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas Magman wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
Audi only put the heating elements into leather seats (ie reasonably easy to retro fit), cloth ones don't have them at all.

Mrs FB' cousins Mrs has an A1 1.4TFSi Sport 5dr in the metallic white with silver roof and comfort pack, otherwise it's standard - he was looking at used too but Bury managed to do him a deal which the finance support made cheaper than a 12 month old similar car on the forecourt. I quite like the standard wheels on the Sport especially as the S-Line now has a set of mingers.


You can, however, get heated seats in an A1 with half leather seats - i.e the seat faces are cloth and the side bolsters are leather.


See my earlier clarification when BB noted this - I am referring to retro fit, not factory (where you can have heated cloth, leather, part leather or alcantara) - Audi used to fit the wires in all leather seats but only leather, i.e. If you hadn't ordered from the factory retro-fit on leather was reasonably simple, on cloth etc a nightmare.
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Audi only put the heating elements into leather seats (ie reasonably easy to retro fit), cloth ones don't have them at all.

Mrs FB' cousins Mrs has an A1 1.4TFSi Sport 5dr in the metallic white with silver roof and comfort pack, otherwise it's standard - he was looking at used too but Bury managed to do him a deal which the finance support made cheaper than a 12 month old similar car on the forecourt. I quite like the standard wheels on the Sport especially as the S-Line now has a set of mingers.


You can, however, get heated seats in an A1 with half leather seats - i.e the seat faces are cloth and the side bolsters are leather.


See my earlier clarification when BB noted this - I am referring to retro fit, not factory (where you can have heated cloth, leather, part leather or alcantara) - Audi used to fit the wires in all leather seats but only leather, i.e. If you hadn't ordered from the factory retro-fit on leather was reasonably simple, on cloth etc a nightmare.



Yes, retro fit on cloth is reassuringly expensive if you want to keep it 'factory'!

http://vagtec.co.uk/eshop/audi/a1/audi-heated-seats-supply-fit.html
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I was talking to my mother again last night and she seems to have taken a shine to the Countryman. She has woken up to idea that it offers the extra ground clearance (useful when you live out in the sticks as she does) and higher seating position of a 4x4 whilst not actually being a full-on 4x4.

I was trying to work out whether a Countryman is actually any more spacious inside than an A1. Doesn't particularly look it when you peek through the windows.
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The leather seats in my 3 series are freezing when you get in so the heated function gets whacked up to 3 and is then reduced as I get towards the end of the estate. I jumped in the Qashqai one cold morning and was surprised at how immediately warm they felt, with no need for any supplementary heating.

I like Chris' idea of the fan heater but I'm going to go one better as I've got an unused Chiminea in the garage and a stock of logs.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The leather seats in my 3 series are freezing when you get in so the heated function gets whacked up to 3


It's best to turn them up as high as possible so they heat up quicker.
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I was trying to work out whether a Countryman is actually any more spacious inside than an A1. Doesn't particularly look it when you peek through the windows.


Hugely so - the A1 wouldn't work as a family car for us but the space in the Countryman was fine
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I was trying to work out whether a Countryman is actually any more spacious inside than an A1. Doesn't particularly look it when you peek through the windows.


Hugely so - the A1 wouldn't work as a family car for us but the space in the Countryman was fine


Yes, the Countryman has plenty of room and the rear seats slide back and forward to increase legroom/increase boot space.
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The leather seats in my 3 series are freezing when you get in so the heated function gets whacked up to 3


It's best to turn them up as high as possible so they heat up quicker.


True in this case. Electrical current will be higher on higher setting, thus heating faster. The same way a 2kW kettle will boil faster than a 1.5kW one.
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Bob Sacamano wrote:
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I was trying to work out whether a Countryman is actually any more spacious inside than an A1. Doesn't particularly look it when you peek through the windows.


Hugely so - the A1 wouldn't work as a family car for us but the space in the Countryman was fine


Yes, the Countryman has plenty of room and the rear seats slide back and forward to increase legroom/increase boot space.


Ok, thanks both. Useful to know.

Hopefully there may be some decent deals on the outgoing version given there is a new model coming out.
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PhilD wrote:
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The leather seats in my 3 series are freezing when you get in so the heated function gets whacked up to 3


It's best to turn them up as high as possible so they heat up quicker.


True in this case. Electrical current will be higher on higher setting, thus heating faster. The same way a 2kW kettle will boil faster than a 1.5kW one.


aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh....
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PhilD wrote:
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The leather seats in my 3 series are freezing when you get in so the heated function gets whacked up to 3


It's best to turn them up as high as possible so they heat up quicker.


True in this case. Electrical current will be higher on higher setting, thus heating faster. The same way a 2kW kettle will boil faster than a 1.5kW one.


aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh....


Will it take off....??


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